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 ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Nov 18 9.09am |
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Originally posted by cardiff eagle
They are all on project fear at the moment. Sky news headline was “no deal Brexit leads to economic collapse”. They then go on to clarify that by collapse they mean a 7% drop which is then back to where it was by 2023. So a 4 year collapse and then back to normal. And this is worst case scenario- whilst in no way ideal, it doesn’t seem like the end of the world people are saying it is. Can I just say here that a 7 percent drop is a catastrophe. 1 or 2 percent is very bad. Economies just can't take these fluctuations these days. 7 percent would equate to mass unemployment, house repossessions, loss of ability to borrow, school and hospital closures and likely civil unrest - certainly massive crime. Possibly worse.
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steeleye20  Croydon 29 Nov 18 9.27am |
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The government itself does not support Brexit. The treasury says we will all be poorer. How much we can only guess at, and prepare for the worst. A financial crash can actually be of benefit if it can acquaint people with reality. But the last one did the opposite, ten years of austerity and gammon piggery, now we have racially-driven Brexit. Look at the posts, it is all immigration paranoia.
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Ouzo Dan  Behind you 29 Nov 18 9.31am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The government itself does not support Brexit. The treasury says we will all be poorer. How much we can only guess at, and prepare for the worst. A financial crash can actually be of benefit if it can acquaint people with reality. But the last one did the opposite, ten years of austerity and gammon piggery, now we have racially-driven Brexit. Look at the posts, it is all immigration paranoia.
Moron. Edited by Ouzo Dan (29 Nov 2018 9.32am)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 29 Nov 18 9.53am |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
Moron. Edited by Ouzo Dan (29 Nov 2018 9.32am) The truth always hurts.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 18 9.53am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The government itself does not support Brexit. The treasury says we will all be poorer. How much we can only guess at, and prepare for the worst. A financial crash can actually be of benefit if it can acquaint people with reality. But the last one did the opposite, ten years of austerity and gammon piggery, now we have racially-driven Brexit. Look at the posts, it is all immigration paranoia.
They don’t want the work and stress of some serious work and some problems for quite a few years. That’s understandable, but this country lives on longer than that. This is the whole point.
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Pussay Patrol  29 Nov 18 9.54am |
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Originally posted by cardiff eagle
They are all on project fear at the moment. Sky news headline was “no deal Brexit leads to economic collapse”. They then go on to clarify that by collapse they mean a 7% drop which is then back to where it was by 2023. So a 4 year collapse and then back to normal. And this is worst case scenario- whilst in no way ideal, it doesn’t seem like the end of the world people are saying it is. But isn't Brexit supposed to be better for us? Otherwise what's the point of it all? If you think all the negative predictions are incorrect or bias then how about presenting some stats, forecasts or facts that show the benefits of Brexit? You never see anything in that regard
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 18 9.57am |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Can I just say here that a 7 percent drop is a catastrophe. 1 or 2 percent is very bad. Economies just can't take these fluctuations these days. 7 percent would equate to mass unemployment, house repossessions, loss of ability to borrow, school and hospital closures and likely civil unrest - certainly massive crime. Possibly worse. A 1 or 2% drop is possible in the strong EU exporting countries to Britain if they don’t play ball or we don’t buy their products, which sounds right seeing as our EU exports are under 45% and their British exports are about 10% I believe. Do they want it also?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 18 10.00am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
But isn't Brexit supposed to be better for us? Otherwise what's the point of it all? If you think all the negative predictions are incorrect or bias then how about presenting some stats, forecasts or facts that show the benefits of Brexit? You never see anything in that regard They are guesstimates anyway. Sure there’ll be uncertainty as there is now, but don’t believe their forecasts are that certain. If they were they’d all be buying and selling bond and stock futures making fortunes, but they’re not, they’re interested in their current position overseeing what we voted leave from.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 18 10.01am |
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Our EU exports are falling every year. The ratio of EU to US exports was always more than 51% EU and 49% US but became 49% The claim that the EU is our biggest trading market or partner is smart, but it isn’t the majority of our export trade, and hasn’t been for many years, and is falling all the time. Is it falling for Germany while they all lap it up, as long millions of people can cause economic and lifestyle issues in Western Europe? I doubt it.
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| Pussay Patrol 29 Nov 18 10.14am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
They are guesstimates anyway. Sure there’ll be uncertainty as there is now, but don’t believe their forecasts are that certain. If they were they’d all be buying and selling bond and stock futures making fortunes, but they’re not, they’re interested in their current position overseeing what we voted leave from. Nothing you've said says we'll be better off Surely if you voted leave its because you'll think we'll be better off? Somebody please show me how we'll be better off
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| Mapletree Croydon 29 Nov 18 10.17am |
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Originally posted by cpfc_chap
Working in Thailand 3 years ago. I know many expats who don't have issues with work permits! Ah, work permits moving to Thailand not quite the same as working in Europe I could be wrong but I suspect Thailand may lack some indigenous skills. I also suspect that an influx from the UK is not a major concern. Far more interesting to look at the flow in the opposite direction. The debate is whether it will get difficult for UK people to work in Europe. My point is, if you look at other developed countries and their regimes and you consider what is already known about the EU immigration controls, we are going to find it tough. Like it used to be.
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| Midlands Eagle 29 Nov 18 10.19am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The truth always hurts. Please stop spouting garbage. People tend to vote on how matters affect them personally and I voted Brexit and live in an area with hardly any immigration. I voted Brexit like so many others in order to regain sovereignty over our own affairs
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