Once again, that was a statement from the article.

My focus on the Great Barrington Declaration was a rebuttal to your claim that no specialists supported the surgeon's views....well it turns out that he was supported by amongst the highest qualified out there and I have found no retractions from them...including the Noble prize winner.

If you are going to look into funding we see that left wing neo liberal Gates funds pretty much most vaccine response and 'advisory' groups this government and the US government uses.

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You are keen to refer to sponsors for opinions you don't agree with yet you fall silent for those that sponsor the groups that produce the polices you agree with.

This whole virus shambles has made Bill Gates much much richer. Is he your number two after Philip Green I wonder?

Yes, I hope you had a merry Christmas.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Dec 2021 11.56am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

So go onto the Yellow Card site then.

The concept of herd immunity, and even the title, is flawed. Catching Delta does not appear to have much impact on whether or not you go on to catch Omicron.

Vaccines give broader and longer lasting protection, plus they can be topped up.

Herd immunity isn't flawed, the flaw is only in how it can be presented.

Vaccines are topped up just as natural immunity is.....in the young I'd much more recommend the latter, in the older the former...However, one of the two doesn't require a jab...In the young having jabs every six months for something that wasn't going to hurt you in the first place is....well vampiric.

When it comes to my commentary on vaccines...and I don't necessarily refer to you here.....it's important that those who represent my views don't over step in their eagerness to criticise....for example some, rather irritatingly, imply I'm an 'anti vaxxer'. Yet my criticism is reserved for the promotion of its usage in the young and healthy. I've never criticised its use for the elderly or vulnerable.....Indeed, I'm on here recommending that use.

I'm not going to criticise vaccine use as it's very important for the vulnerable

However, if you're going to recommend vaccines because they can be 'topped up' it's also important to note that vaccines are not as strong as natural immunity.

As for your point that vaccines provide broader protection and longer lasting protection. Personally I wouldn't know.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Dec 2021 2.15pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Acknowledging the contribution that Gates makes and then criticising that he might have seen his wealth rise as an indirect result of the response to the pandemic seems to be searching for mud.

Gates has donated billions to his Foundation, which is held in trust and managed independently, albeit in the direction first conceived by Melinda and him. I would not anticipate him seeking to profit from any shares he holds personally, but rather that he will continue to support the Foundation, which Warren Buffett also supports. I don't believe he personally buys any media, or tries to influence narrative. If the Foundation feels it's needed to further its work then they will take the decisions. The tasks are delegated and kept at arm's length.

That an opinionated, self-important and arrogant attention seeker has the resources to spread his opinions around on YouTube is a rather unfortunate fact of life these days. Such things used just to be heard down the pub, which is where they belong.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (26 Dec 2021 7.34pm)

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

After 1098 pages this will be a repeat so excuse me.
Someone I know died following a massive heart attack just two weeks ago.
He had a positive test 21 days previously so he is therefore a covid statistic.
He was not positive when he died and covid was not the cause so why is he a covid death?
It is all wrong and they should - or do they - release true vivid death figures.

Personally I would think that those who have died of covid after the 28 period are still registered as covid deaths. I very much doubt that there are undercounts myself.

As for the 'effects of covid' like heart inflammation....which again, I'd like to see the figures on both in terms of severity in regards of covid and vaccine....I guess none of us really know. Though you would question why.

Regarding the point of severe health implications relating to covid. I don't doubt that this is true....however I'll make the point that this has also been the case with flu since it's been with us before and after 'vaccines'. Nevertheless, vaccine policy was optional for the over fifties and not offered for those below that outside of vulnerable status. I would point out the disparity of societal concern between these different time periods....also is the low level of registered flu deaths realistic...but that's an old chestnut now.

Your point about this all being a 'bit late in the day' needs to also reflect that there has indeed been commentary and questions asked.....it just isn't being reflected in the mainstream....indeed, it's either attacked or just not responded to out of...in my view...a misplaced concern that nothing should be seriously questioned as it would reduce vaccine take up.....in the elderly and vulnerable I think a 'greater good' point is a valid discussion. But for people with forty years plus to live I really think those questions should be focused on.

In my view society shouldn't be treated like a fearful infant.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Dec 2021 11.53am)

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