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Stirlingsays 28 Nov 18 4.04pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I think some people said that about Hitler. For all your rhetoric, you see nothing. The future is for our children and their children. My children. What we do now impacts on them. The powers that be care not one iota for any of us. We must do what we can to protect ourselves. Any ideas about a harmonious human race moving forward together is delusionary. It is Yoko Ono loopy. The EU is a mechanism of control. You are happy to be a sheep ready for slaughter. Good response. More than 17 million people voted for Brexit. This guy is a clown with his head in the sand. If this country is lost then it's lost. Our children won't be likely to be sticking around for the descent. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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28 Nov 18 4.04pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I think some people said that about Hitler.

For all your rhetoric, you see nothing. The future is for our children and their children. My children.
What we do now impacts on them. The powers that be care not one iota for any of us. We must do what we can to protect ourselves. Any ideas about a harmonious human race moving forward together is delusionary. It is Yoko Ono loopy. The EU is a mechanism of control.

You are happy to be a sheep ready for slaughter.

Good response.

More than 17 million people voted for Brexit. This guy is a clown with his head in the sand.

If this country is lost then it's lost. Our children won't be likely to be sticking around for the descent.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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since1953 Maidenhead 28 Nov 18 4.06pm
I just wonder what the outcome of a new referendum on the following choices would be: 1 Leave EU as per article 50 then apply to rejoin the EU after 29/2/19 on their new terms. 2.Leave the EU with or without a deal. I voted to join the Common Market back in '74 but I never bought into this so-called superstate dream.I just wanted great trade terms with the other members.
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Maidenhead 28 Nov 18 4.06pm

I just wonder what the outcome of a new referendum on the following choices would be:

1 Leave EU as per article 50 then
apply to rejoin the EU after 29/2/19 on their new terms.

2.Leave the EU with or without a deal.

I voted to join the Common Market back in '74 but I never bought into this so-called superstate dream.I just wanted great trade terms with the other members.

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Stirlingsays 28 Nov 18 4.08pm
Originally posted by DanH He's got a point though. If the referendum was re-run it would probably swing to remain just purely from leave voters who have since died and those now of voting age who couldn't vote at the time. For such a huge decision which will affect the next good half a century, going with a vote which was won largely due to the older demographics is f*cking stupid. Mmmmmm.... Wouldn't more people have have moved into that later age category than would have died off or been introduced.....it probably evens out. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Nov 2018 4.10pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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28 Nov 18 4.08pm

Originally posted by DanH

He's got a point though.

If the referendum was re-run it would probably swing to remain just purely from leave voters who have since died and those now of voting age who couldn't vote at the time.

For such a huge decision which will affect the next good half a century, going with a vote which was won largely due to the older demographics is f*cking stupid.

Mmmmmm....

Wouldn't more people have have moved into that later age category than would have died off or been introduced.....it probably evens out.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Nov 2018 4.10pm)

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chris123 hove actually 28 Nov 18 4.08pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays It's true....mind you I heard a rumour that a German did actually laugh once....but on further inspected it was downgraded to a melodic cough. They love that Freddie Frinton sketch.
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hove actually 28 Nov 18 4.08pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's true....mind you I heard a rumour that a German did actually laugh once....but on further inspected it was downgraded to a melodic cough.

They love that Freddie Frinton sketch.

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DanH SW2 28 Nov 18 4.11pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Isn't that a bit of a logic fail? More people would have moved into that later age category than would have died off. I highly doubt any of those who have who voted remain the first time around would have switched to leave. I've not met many who have switched from one side to the other since the vote, but of those I have it's leave voters who have said they would now remain.
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SW2 28 Nov 18 4.11pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Isn't that a bit of a logic fail?

More people would have moved into that later age category than would have died off.

I highly doubt any of those who have who voted remain the first time around would have switched to leave.

I've not met many who have switched from one side to the other since the vote, but of those I have it's leave voters who have said they would now remain.

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chris123 hove actually 28 Nov 18 4.12pm
Originally posted by Mapletree I've met his third cousin, yes please You should have stayed in South London, once you move out the humour by-pass sets in. I knew his Dad when he was at BP, Harold very nice bloke.
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hove actually 28 Nov 18 4.12pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I've met his third cousin, yes please

You should have stayed in South London, once you move out the humour by-pass sets in.

I knew his Dad when he was at BP, Harold very nice bloke.

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Stirlingsays 28 Nov 18 4.14pm
Originally posted by DanH I highly doubt any of those who have who voted remain the first time around would have switched to leave. I've not met many who have switched from one side to the other since the vote, but of those I have it's leave voters who have said they would now remain. If you are going to categorie groups like a youth group for voting one way based upon statistics.....then you have to do the same for later groups.....As people age, their politics change as well. Statistics init.....surely a bean counter can see that. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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28 Nov 18 4.14pm

Originally posted by DanH

I highly doubt any of those who have who voted remain the first time around would have switched to leave.

I've not met many who have switched from one side to the other since the vote, but of those I have it's leave voters who have said they would now remain.

If you are going to categorie groups like a youth group for voting one way based upon statistics.....then you have to do the same for later groups.....As people age, their politics change as well.

Statistics init.....surely a bean counter can see that.

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steeleye20 Croydon 28 Nov 18 4.15pm
Yes I think 65% would be remain now. McDonnell says it is 'inevitable' Labour will back second referendum John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, has suggested it is “inevitable” that Labour will back a second referendum if Theresa May’s Brexit deal is defeated in the Commons but the party is unable to force a general election. McDonnell told the BBC: Well just a feeler there from Labour.
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Croydon 28 Nov 18 4.15pm

Yes I think 65% would be remain now.

McDonnell says it is 'inevitable' Labour will back second referendum

John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, has suggested it is “inevitable” that Labour will back a second referendum if Theresa May’s Brexit deal is defeated in the Commons but the party is unable to force a general election. McDonnell told the BBC:

Well just a feeler there from Labour.

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becky over the moon 28 Nov 18 4.17pm
Originally posted by DanH He's got a point though. If the referendum was re-run it would probably swing to remain just purely from leave voters who have since died and those now of voting age who couldn't vote at the time. For such a huge decision which will affect the next good half a century, going with a vote which was won largely due to the older demographics is fcking stupid. Ah, but what about those in the middle who have now grown older and wiser, and may have changed their position? My reference to the original post had far more to do with the statements he made such as: to cling on to something, anything, before you die out with little more than a few thousand words of dross and negativity on a forum to show for it.* You're no longer, or have never been in positions of influence, value or social necessity for a reason trying to hold on to some form of relevance for your lives before you fade out into nothingness How does he 'have a point' on those comments about a group of people he has never met and knows nothing of the background of? A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 28 Nov 18 4.17pm

Originally posted by DanH

He's got a point though.

If the referendum was re-run it would probably swing to remain just purely from leave voters who have since died and those now of voting age who couldn't vote at the time.

For such a huge decision which will affect the next good half a century, going with a vote which was won largely due to the older demographics is f*cking stupid.

Ah, but what about those in the middle who have now grown older and wiser, and may have changed their position?

My reference to the original post had far more to do with the statements he made such as:

to cling on to something, anything, before you die out with little more than a few thousand words of dross and negativity on a forum to show for it.

You're no longer, or have never been in positions of influence, value or social necessity for a reason

trying to hold on to some form of relevance for your lives before you fade out into nothingness

How does he 'have a point' on those comments about a group of people he has never met and knows nothing of the background of?

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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Stirlingsays 28 Nov 18 4.19pm
Originally posted by Mapletree I've met his third cousin, yes please You should have stayed in South London, once you move out the humour by-pass sets in. Well, back in 87 my sister and mother had been mugged....plus I was attacked a year earlier by a large posse gang where I could have lost my life....but I was lucky to escape with broken bones and scars. So personally....I think my stepfather deciding to move us out of Stockwell was probably the better long term decision. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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28 Nov 18 4.19pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I've met his third cousin, yes please

You should have stayed in South London, once you move out the humour by-pass sets in.

Well, back in 87 my sister and mother had been mugged....plus I was attacked a year earlier by a large posse gang where I could have lost my life....but I was lucky to escape with broken bones and scars.

So personally....I think my stepfather deciding to move us out of Stockwell was probably the better long term decision.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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DanH SW2 28 Nov 18 4.23pm
Originally posted by becky Ah, but what about those in the middle who have now grown older and wiser, and may have changed their position? My reference to the original post had far more to do with the statements he made such as: to cling on to something, anything, before you die out with little more than a few thousand words of dross and negativity on a forum to show for it. You're no longer, or have never been in positions of influence, value or social necessity for a reason trying to hold on to some form of relevance for your lives before you fade out into nothingness How does he 'have a point' on those comments about a group of people he has never met and knows nothing of the background of? I think it quite nicely sums up all of us posting on this forum. It's all pointless really isn't it?
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SW2 28 Nov 18 4.23pm

Originally posted by becky

Ah, but what about those in the middle who have now grown older and wiser, and may have changed their position?

My reference to the original post had far more to do with the statements he made such as:

to cling on to something, anything, before you die out with little more than a few thousand words of dross and negativity on a forum to show for it.

You're no longer, or have never been in positions of influence, value or social necessity for a reason

trying to hold on to some form of relevance for your lives before you fade out into nothingness

How does he 'have a point' on those comments about a group of people he has never met and knows nothing of the background of?

I think it quite nicely sums up all of us posting on this forum. It's all pointless really isn't it?

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Stirlingsays 28 Nov 18 4.29pm
Originally posted by DanH I think it quite nicely sums up all of us posting on this forum. It's all pointless really isn't it? ? It's just one Palace forum which happens to be about politics. It's a loose form of community......It doesn't exist to change opinions as much as let off steam, inform or just put your views out there. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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28 Nov 18 4.29pm

Originally posted by DanH

I think it quite nicely sums up all of us posting on this forum. It's all pointless really isn't it?

It's just one Palace forum which happens to be about politics. It's a loose form of community......It doesn't exist to change opinions as much as let off steam, inform or just put your views out there.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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