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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 04 Jul 24 2.02pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by XKudu

I think the Labour victory will be just as great as the Tory victory at the last election. Parties get periodically thumped. It happens to them all. Big deal. People always then want a change and the other party gets in a few years down the road.

The economy is improving so I don’t buy this Labour narrative that they’ll inherit a total bankrupt mess
and won’t be able to do anything for years and years. Sounds like a preemptive excuse to me anticipating their own future failings and mismanagement. Talk about a defeatist attitude. They should be more positive. They have a real chance to do something.

Ironically wasn’t it Labour that left the Tories with a truly bankrupt economy and a note saying “sorry there’s no money left” The Tories managed to turn things round so should Labour from an even stronger baseline.

Edited by XKudu (04 Jul 2024 1.18pm)

UK National Debt in 2008 was just over half a trillion £.

It's now nearly £3 trillion.

National Debt now is 105% of GDP, compared with 45% in 2008.

But yeah, Labour left the 'truly bankrupt' economy because they left a note.

 

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CrazyBadger Flag Ware 04 Jul 24 3.06pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by XKudu

I think the Labour victory will be just as great as the Tory victory at the last election. Parties get periodically thumped. It happens to them all. Big deal. People always then want a change and the other party gets in a few years down the road.

The economy is improving so I don’t buy this Labour narrative that they’ll inherit a total bankrupt mess and won’t be able to do anything for years and years. Sounds like a preemptive excuse to me anticipating their own future failings and mismanagement. Talk about a defeatist attitude. They should be more positive. They have a real chance to do something.

Ironically wasn’t it Labour that left the Tories with a truly bankrupt economy and a note saying “sorry there’s no money left” The Tories managed to turn things round so should Labour from an even stronger baseline.

Edited by XKudu (04 Jul 2024 1.18pm)


They'll push the 'total bankrupt mess' line for as long as they can as a stick to Bash the Tories with. In exactly the same way as the Tories bashed Labour for the 'total bankrupt mess' they left them with. It's all so childish, mud flinging b*llsh*t.

I think it's healthy for management to change periodically, it balances things out and can keep things fresh. It's like going from a Defensive manager to an attacking manager - for the first 6 months you can find that a happy medium is struck and the system works well.
Problem is that you need 2 managers of sufficiently differing views for it to Work. I fear we are just swapping Frank Lampard for Steve McClaren.


 


"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 04 Jul 24 3.20pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

'There won't be a woman PM in my lifetime' - Margaret Thatcher.

'We will not re-join the EU in my lifetime' - Keir Starmer.


 

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becky Flag over the moon 04 Jul 24 3.49pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Just been to exercise my francise. As it was very quiet in the Polling Station I took great delight in standing in the booth with my pencil poised, audibly playing "dit, dot, do" 5 times (we have 6 candidates)before marking the ballot paper and exiting to put it in the box.

The look on the faces of the 2 guys running the station was a picture.

 


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YT Flag Oxford 04 Jul 24 3.51pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Just been to exercise my francise. As it was very quiet in the Polling Station I took great delight in standing in the booth with my pencil poised, audibly playing "dit, dot, do" 5 times (we have 6 candidates)before marking the ballot paper and exiting to put it in the box.

The look on the faces of the 2 guys running the station was a picture.

That's good; having a joke at the expense of people who are working a 16 hour day for scant reward.

 


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becky Flag over the moon 04 Jul 24 3.55pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by YT

That's good; having a joke at the expense of people who are working a 16 hour day for scant reward.

How so? They were sitting on their bums when I went in, they were still so when I left, and the actually get a good rate for working the day, so my 'having a joke' made absolutely no difference to their day whatsoever, other than maybe giving them a bit of light relief.

 


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Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 04 Jul 24 4.15pm Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by becky

How so? They were sitting on their bums when I went in, they were still so when I left, and the actually get a good rate for working the day, so my 'having a joke' made absolutely no difference to their day whatsoever, other than maybe giving them a bit of light relief.

We gave the clerks a laugh...we took our dog into the polling station. He'd never been in there before and must have assumed that we were going to leave him there. He howled for a full two minutes.

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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palace99 Flag New Mills 04 Jul 24 4.19pm

Originally posted by XKudu

I think the Labour victory will be just as great as the Tory victory at the last election. Parties get periodically thumped. It happens to them all. Big deal. People always then want a change and the other party gets in a few years down the road.

The economy is improving so I don’t buy this Labour narrative that they’ll inherit a total bankrupt mess and won’t be able to do anything for years and years. Sounds like a preemptive excuse to me anticipating their own future failings and mismanagement. Talk about a defeatist attitude. They should be more positive. They have a real chance to do something.

Ironically wasn’t it Labour that left the Tories with a truly bankrupt economy and a note saying “sorry there’s no money left” The Tories managed to turn things round so should Labour from an even stronger baseline.

Edited by XKudu (04 Jul 2024 1.18pm)

that's pathetic.

As has been stated the national debt is now over 100% of GDP, our overall tax burden is the highest it has been since the 2nd world war, but of course don't trust Labour as they will raise your taxes.
Personally i would be happy to pay a little more if it meant i could get a doctors appointment or didn't need to wait for 12 hours at A&E, or even could use a public toilet now and again.

And who cares if CGT is raised - it's very low now and only c400k pay it each year, whereas c40m people pay income tax, so the impact is on 1% of the population.

 

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eaglesdare Flag 04 Jul 24 4.21pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

that's pathetic.

As has been stated the national debt is now over 100% of GDP, our overall tax burden is the highest it has been since the 2nd world war, but of course don't trust Labour as they will raise your taxes.
Personally i would be happy to pay a little more if it meant i could get a doctors appointment or didn't need to wait for 12 hours at A&E, or even could use a public toilet now and again.

And who cares if CGT is raised - it's very low now and only c400k pay it each year, whereas c40m people pay income tax, so the impact is on 1% of the population.

Why not go Private healthcare then?

 

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YT Flag Oxford 04 Jul 24 4.34pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by becky

How so? They were sitting on their bums when I went in, they were still so when I left, and the actually get a good rate for working the day, so my 'having a joke' made absolutely no difference to their day whatsoever, other than maybe giving them a bit of light relief.

I can assure you they don't get a good rate because up to and including the recent Police Commissioner elections, I've been a poll clerk myself for the last 5 years. I finally decided 'enough is enough' primarily due to the number of knob-heads you have to deal with; their knob-headery made worse by the requirement for them to bring photo ID.

Edited by YT (04 Jul 2024 4.35pm)

 


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Matov Flag 04 Jul 24 6.31pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'There won't be a woman PM in my lifetime' - Margaret Thatcher.

'We will not re-join the EU in my lifetime' - Keir Starmer.


Quite.

And shall we raise the promises Starmer made during his leadership campaign?

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Matov Flag 04 Jul 24 6.34pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

'Voted' early. Or rather when in and drew three lines over my ballot paper.

And to my surprise, walked out feeling exhilarated! Totally unexpected reaction.

Now tomorrow I might feel different, and once upon a time I would have been my harshest critic for taking such an action but today...it just felt right.

I fully accept arguments about how puerile such a gesture is but as things stand, am still buzzing.

f*** Democracy.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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