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silvertop Flag Portishead 07 Mar 22 10.11am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

There is no justification for Putin's actions whatsoever.

Nobody said there was; it's just that we don't need western media spouting the usual partisan crud about Russian soldiers using babies as clappers in church bells and the like. They don't need to. Just show it like it is.

I suspect this is because the Russians won't allow it but I want to see am embedded journalist with a Russian unit; even more extended film the Russians are releasing of their combat operations (not the one of the babushka kissing the soldier). ISIS allowed their operations to be filmed and the western media showed it. We got a better appreciation of the balance of the story (but still hated ISIS with equal force).

Having said that, early in the thread a Putin apologist stated with, a scoff, that the media were saying Putin had an arrest agenda for undesirables when he takes Ukraine and dismissed it as some propaganda fake news. That smacks of Trumpism. He has this policy in his own country. Even if completely made up, it would be bizarre if his security apparatus hadn't complied such a list.

 

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silvertop Flag Portishead 07 Mar 22 10.16am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Our brains have always been easily manipulated noddles, but the technology now just doesn't let us forget it.

God save us from the wannabe global Francis of Assisis'.

It's like the Adrian Mole club.


Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Mar 2022 9.58am)

Stirling please don't correct that. A new and better word is born!

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Mar 22 10.18am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Stirling please don't correct that. A new and better word is born!

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Mar 22 10.37am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

While I'm obviously not on their side of the political fence I think Russell Brand and Yanis Varoufakis had some sensible thoughts and suggestions on this current situation.

[Link]

I'd link to Academic Agent as well but that's far less politically correct or rather sensitive.

 


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kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 07 Mar 22 10.44am Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

This is a US commenator on Fox News - Biden is a fool and a disgrace (probably correct) and Putin needs to be taught a proper lesson - he's really looking for a fight!
He must be of the old school " we were late for the first two world wars but be wont be for the third"

[Link]

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Mar 22 10.48am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by kevlee

This is a US commenator on Fox News - Biden is a fool and a disgrace (probably correct) and Putin needs to be taught a proper lesson - he's really looking for a fight!
He must be of the old school " we were late for the first two world wars but be wont be for the third"

[Link]

War drumming increases views.

Self serving as usual.

 


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Grumbles 07 Mar 22 11.09am Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Originally posted by kevlee

This is a US commenator on Fox News - Biden is a fool and a disgrace (probably correct) and Putin needs to be taught a proper lesson - he's really looking for a fight!
He must be of the old school " we were late for the first two world wars but be wont be for the third"

[Link]

A more traditional Republican view but there is no doubt the far right of the Republican Party support Putin, similar to some on here.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 07 Mar 22 1.07pm

Originally posted by kevlee

This is a US commenator on Fox News - Biden is a fool and a disgrace (probably correct) and Putin needs to be taught a proper lesson - he's really looking for a fight!
He must be of the old school " we were late for the first two world wars but be wont be for the third"

[Link]

Just a thought really, but maybe there should be a cut off point for being a President. You can certainly be too young and lacking in experience, but you can also be too old and either not with it, or looking for some kind of hurrah that you don't personally have to pay a personal price for, long term.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Mar 22 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Just a thought really, but maybe there should be a cut off point for being a President. You can certainly be too young and lacking in experience, but you can also be too old and either not with it, or looking for some kind of hurrah that you don't personally have to pay a personal price for, long term.

In terms of the USA,the President and Vice President must be 35 years of age or older when assuming office.
A President can only serve for 2 terms, a total of 8 years.

Edited by Willo (07 Mar 2022 1.16pm)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 07 Mar 22 1.15pm

Originally posted by Willo

Russia has lost more troops in a week than the UK did in 20 years in Afghanistan.

"Ukraine’s Defense Minister Reznikov has said that weapons and ammunition is now flowing into the country and promised that the Russian Army is about to be “in for a surprise".


It definitely does appear that arms and equipment are finally getting through to Ukraine, and its clear the Russian army has experienced significant loses. Shameful that they were instructed to attack their neighbours, and Putin has only succeeded in making damaging his own people and others on multiple fronts.

Latest: "Ukrainian navy: Russian vessel near Odessa retreated after being struck by Ukrainian gunfire - Reuters"


Edited by BlueJay (07 Mar 2022 1.19pm)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 07 Mar 22 1.23pm

Originally posted by Willo

In terms of the USA,the President and Vice President must be 35 years of age or older when assuming office.
A President can only serve for 2 terms, a total of 8 years.

Edited by Willo (07 Mar 2022 1.16pm)

35 is very young (but at least it's no younger), but a President's first term as with Biden can be at any higher age I assume? 78 in Bidens. I'm far from one to judge on age, as it's all too easy and lazy for people to do so, but in the case of leading a country and all that entails the idea that Biden will be President into his 80s seems a little nutty.

 

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Grumbles 07 Mar 22 2.16pm Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

A President can only serve for 2 terms, a total of 8 years.

Edited by Willo (07 Mar 2022 1.16pm)

since '51.

 

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