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georgenorman 11 Mar 23 6.32pm | |
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If you want to see the fruits of what the left want, just have a look at Sweden and see how that once pleasant and orderly country is descending into utter chaos.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 12 Mar 23 11.53am | |
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Lefties have given us a Black Anne Boleyn, a Black Achilles, a Roman army with many black officers, and gay Arminius fighting against the romans in the Teutoberg forest. A black woman leading a band of marauding Vikings in Sweden (Vikings valhalla).
or is it, as i suspect, that lefties have no sense of humour ? Freedom of speech is to be allowed....hypocrisy ? not so much
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cryrst The garden of England 29 Mar 23 4.56am | |
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Karma is a bitch.
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Matov 30 Mar 23 12.40pm | |
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You want proof of the hidden hand of an unelected Government steering this country then the fate of Corbyn offers all kinds of proof of that. Yes, that old Trot is everything that disgusts me about the Left. But at least he did have some principles. What has happened to him is an absolute disgrace if you place any value on politics being conducted in any kind of transparent and fair manner. I am just as guilty as getting caught up in the tribalism of it all but this stinks. And is a bad portent of what is to come. We are ALL being played by people who do not have the UK's best interests at heart. And they are across our political spectrum.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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steeleye20 Croydon 30 Mar 23 3.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
You want proof of the hidden hand of an unelected Government steering this country then the fate of Corbyn offers all kinds of proof of that. Yes, that old Trot is everything that disgusts me about the Left. But at least he did have some principles. What has happened to him is an absolute disgrace if you place any value on politics being conducted in any kind of transparent and fair manner. I am just as guilty as getting caught up in the tribalism of it all but this stinks. And is a bad portent of what is to come. We are ALL being played by people who do not have the UK's best interests at heart. And they are across our political spectrum. Quite, and it leaves all the people who do not want this creeping authoritarianism out in the cold.
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cryrst The garden of England 30 Mar 23 5.14pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Quite, and it leaves all the people who do not want this creeping authoritarianism out in the cold. We are all in the cold and forever twill be.
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cryrst The garden of England 30 Mar 23 5.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
You want proof of the hidden hand of an unelected Government steering this country then the fate of Corbyn offers all kinds of proof of that. Yes, that old Trot is everything that disgusts me about the Left. But at least he did have some principles. What has happened to him is an absolute disgrace if you place any value on politics being conducted in any kind of transparent and fair manner. I am just as guilty as getting caught up in the tribalism of it all but this stinks. And is a bad portent of what is to come. We are ALL being played by people who do not have the UK's best interests at heart. And they are across our political spectrum. With respect the guys a t*** who would have taken us down a very dark road; not that we arnt at the gates of that now. A pure mao lover who would have taken everything you have or are likely to have and given it to oxygen thieves milking the system who are from here and abroad. Look to France for left wing institutions holding the country to ransom for what I see as a sensible decision from macron. Don’t like the man but this isn’t a decision the sums don’t back up. Sorry matov I cannot believe giving corbyn the stage will benefit the many. Imho which is normally at about Neptune distance from reality but hey ho
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Spiderman Horsham 30 Mar 23 5.35pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
With respect the guys a t*** who would have taken us down a very dark road; not that we arnt at the gates of that now. A pure mao lover who would have taken everything you have or are likely to have and given it to oxygen thieves milking the system who are from here and abroad. Look to France for left wing institutions holding the country to ransom for what I see as a sensible decision from macron. Don’t like the man but this isn’t a decision the sums don’t back up. Sorry matov I cannot believe giving corbyn the stage will benefit the many. Imho which is normally at about Neptune distance from reality but hey ho With regards to France, our media seem to be ignoring reporting on it. Should it not be the top story? Why is that? Couldn’t possibly happen in the utopia of the EU?
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PalazioVecchio south pole 30 Mar 23 5.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
With regards to France, our media seem to be ignoring reporting on it. Should it not be the top story? Why is that? Couldn’t possibly happen in the utopia of the EU? the tyranny & censorship seems to be everywhere
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Matov 30 Mar 23 6.02pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
With respect the guys a t*** who would have taken us down a very dark road; not that we arnt at the gates of that now. A pure mao lover who would have taken everything you have or are likely to have and given it to oxygen thieves milking the system who are from here and abroad. Look to France for left wing institutions holding the country to ransom for what I see as a sensible decision from macron. Don’t like the man but this isn’t a decision the sums don’t back up. Sorry matov I cannot believe giving corbyn the stage will benefit the many. Imho which is normally at about Neptune distance from reality but hey ho The issue for me is not what Corbyn stood for. I find little to disagree with what you are saying. What I loathe is how the man was effectively bought down by an inner sanctum of our wider political establishment. In 2017 he genuinely scared them. Polled 40% of the vote. I could bore you with all kinds of leaked messages from people within Labour who were distraught when this happened but won't Corbyn offered the people of this country a genuine alternative to the mainstream. Do I delight in that vision being rejected? Yes. Do I take any pleasure in Corbyn being effectively cast out of our political system for doing so? Then no. The same behind the scenes actors who foisted Sunak on us are the same people who are lined up behind Starmer. The issue for me not wanting either of them in number 10. And yet what choice do we have? None. Edited by Matov (30 Mar 2023 6.03pm)
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cryrst The garden of England 30 Mar 23 7.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
With regards to France, our media seem to be ignoring reporting on it. Should it not be the top story? Why is that? Couldn’t possibly happen in the utopia of the EU? Do you not think the bigger picture is that he is correct. The UK retirement age sits at 66 now and 67 from 2028 and no change until after 2040, for now!
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cryrst The garden of England 30 Mar 23 7.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
The issue for me is not what Corbyn stood for. I find little to disagree with what you are saying. What I loathe is how the man was effectively bought down by an inner sanctum of our wider political establishment. In 2017 he genuinely scared them. Polled 40% of the vote. I could bore you with all kinds of leaked messages from people within Labour who were distraught when this happened but won't Corbyn offered the people of this country a genuine alternative to the mainstream. Do I delight in that vision being rejected? Yes. Do I take any pleasure in Corbyn being effectively cast out of our political system for doing so? Then no. The same behind the scenes actors who foisted Sunak on us are the same people who are lined up behind Starmer. The issue for me not wanting either of them in number 10. And yet what choice do we have? None. Edited by Matov (30 Mar 2023 6.03pm) I get what you say about the unfairness of his treatment and how it’s come from a tick box exercise but being cancelled is not for the minions any more. It hits the top and this may open the eyes up as many of his supporters are the very woke who wanted these rules. Live by it, die by it I guess!
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