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W12 27 Nov 19 5.02pm

Originally posted by Jway89

Proof maybe?
Should be able to jot down 5 things pretty easily.

Stopping mass immigration (down about 70% I believe)
Bringing manufacturing back to the US
Starting address the issue of Chinese expansion and copyright theft - tariffs are working
Reducing unemployment especially in the rust belt (those left behind by globalism)
Increasing wages
Literally draining the swamp e.g. replacing justices with non globalists/leftists - I think this is going to be a feature of 2020 as people will start to get arrested for election interference and perhaps even treason
Massively Improved engagement and support with black and hispanic demographics


You will here little or none of these in the legacy media

 

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Deleted11 27 Nov 19 8.16pm

Originally posted by W12

Stopping mass immigration (down about 70% I believe)
Bringing manufacturing back to the US
Starting address the issue of Chinese expansion and copyright theft - tariffs are working
Reducing unemployment especially in the rust belt (those left behind by globalism)
Increasing wages
Literally draining the swamp e.g. replacing justices with non globalists/leftists - I think this is going to be a feature of 2020 as people will start to get arrested for election interference and perhaps even treason
Massively Improved engagement and support with black and hispanic demographics


You will here little or none of these in the legacy media

With all due respect, that is not proof. Those are soundbites along the lines of 'getting brexit done'. He has appointed justices to the supreme court. Tell me a president who doesnt.

Average median income has been rising at about 2% per year since 2011ish. I havent gone too deep into going before, but imagine it was low arounf 2008.
Migration to the US has gone up on 5 charts ive looked at including the govs own charts.

He brought some manufacturing jobs back and done something on Nafta and put through tax cuts, which pretty much every republican president does.

He has done F all with the china trade deal apart from help his wall street buddies get even richer by tweeting if a deal is likely to be made or not sending the dow up or down. He has done an amazing trade deal with the Saudis though. I hear his new hotel there is going to be amazing.

Draining the swamp? I may be wrong here, but is Steve Mnuchin, a former Goldman Sachs banker his head of treasury? Now we may disagree but i would put anyone from GS as being pretty swampy.

Black and Latino support? I cant see that happening. Theres only so much Kanye can do.

Amazingly enough, there has been no news on the wall.

Look we can support whoever we want, but when its blindly done then as a society we have been hoodwinked beyond saving.

 

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becky Flag over the moon 27 Nov 19 9.34pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I have to admit, she does remind me of some female English teachers I've met along the way.

With her it's mainly about the presentation. She's has that strident feminist style, which doesn't come across well to the normie.

Thatcher learnt how to combine a strident and firm nature while still retaining a certain femininity.

The activists won't like hearing that of course but that's the reality.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Nov 2019 2.19pm)


With Thatcher,you had the impression that if you misbehaved, she would take your trousers down and give you a jolly good spanking.

With Jo Swinson, you have the impression that she would sit you on the naughty step and lecture you for half an hour about being nice and playing fair.


 


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Stirlingsays Flag 27 Nov 19 9.37pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by becky


With Thatcher,you had the impression that if you misbehaved, she would take your trousers down and give you a jolly good spanking.

With Jo Swinson, you have the impression that she would sit you on the naughty step and lecture you for half an hour about being nice and playing fair.


I think you nailed the distinction.

It certainly explains why Thatcher was so popular with and able to handle all the men in the Conservative party.

 


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Invalid user 2019 Flag 27 Nov 19 9.44pm

Westminster Voting Intention: CON: 41% (-1) LAB: 34% (+2) LDM: 13% (+1) BXP: 5% (=) Via @SavantaComRes, 25-26 Nov. Changes w/ 20-21 Nov.


 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Nov 19 9.48pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Reminder about Voting.

Some idiot shared a picture of their postal voting slip on social media tonight.

Folks it is illegal to photograph your ballot paper so please do not do it whether it's a postal vote or you are in the polling station. No photography otherwise Inspector Knacker of the Yard maybe feeling your collar.

And on the subject of voting the old "why do they use pencils" urban myth will no doubt come up again. It's not so the staff can erase your vote and change it that is rubbish.

You can bring and use your own writing instrument if you want although technically it is illegal, staff have been told to let it go.

If you use a pen and the ink is not dry when you fold the paper it is possible that the ink transfers so the paper has 2 crosses. In other words this is for your benefit not some sinister conspiracy.

If either of these 2 points come up in your company please clarify them I have been surprised the number of people who didn't know this.

Thanks

 


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Invalid user 2019 Flag 27 Nov 19 10.02pm

For what it's worth YouGov has just released its detailed model of what it thinks the 2019 election result will be. They called in right in 2017.


Con 359 (+42)
Lab 211 (-51)
Lib Dem 13 (+1)
SNP 43 (+8 )
Plaid 4 (-)
Green 1 (-)
Speaker 1 (-)


Conservative majority of 68 predicted

Visit here for the constituency level detail [Link]


Edited by dollardays (27 Nov 2019 10.13pm)

 

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Invalid user 2019 Flag 27 Nov 19 10.16pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I have to admit, she does remind me of some female English teachers I've met along the way.

With her it's mainly about the presentation. She's has that strident feminist style, which doesn't come across well to the normie.

Thatcher learnt how to combine a strident and firm nature while still retaining a certain femininity.

The activists won't like hearing that of course but that's the reality.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Nov 2019 2.19pm)

Yes, she's perpetually rather pleased with herself, but without any real substance, relatability or even passion for policy to back it up.

Edited by dollardays (27 Nov 2019 10.17pm)

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 27 Nov 19 10.20pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

Yes, she's perpetually rather pleased with herself, but without any real substance, relatability or even passion for policy to back it up.

Edited by dollardays (27 Nov 2019 10.17pm)

It'll be fascinating to see her vote share. I can't see her losing any vote share though.....Just not making a significant break through....which I suppose is what they were hoping for with being staunch remain and revoking.

 


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Invalid user 2019 Flag 27 Nov 19 10.37pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It'll be fascinating to see her vote share. I can't see her losing any vote share though.....Just not making a significant break through....which I suppose is what they were hoping for with being staunch remain and revoking.

I don't think they'll lose any ground either. In a way they carved out their position of being the mainstream remain option, at the cost of actually having a chance to get a sniff of power. It was always going to come down to which position our of remain and leave fragmented the least, and the Tories have played a blinder there with a little help from Nige.

Corbyn perhaps should've gone 2nd ref, but pledged to campaign for remain (to get the lib dems on board, either the party or the voters). Instead their position always seemed rather labyrinthian and ephemeral. It's hard to vote for a non position. He's a life long activist though anyway, and so on one level maybe he likes the rallying cry more than the responsibility of actually being in power.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 27 Nov 19 11.00pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

I don't think they'll lose any ground either. In a way they carved out their position of being the mainstream remain option, at the cost of actually having a chance to get a sniff of power. It was always going to come down to which position our of remain and leave fragmented the least, and the Tories have played a blinder there with a little help from Nige.

Corbyn perhaps should've gone 2nd ref, but pledged to campaign for remain (to get the lib dems on board, either the party or the voters). Instead their position always seemed rather labyrinthian and ephemeral. It's hard to vote for a non position. He's a life long activist though anyway, and so on one level maybe he likes the rallying cry more than the responsibility of actually being in power.

Yep, sounds about right.

I'm just happy it's all going to be over in time for the mince pies.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Nov 19 7.41am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Talk in the papers today that Boris is avoiding Andrew Neil, I can't say that I blame him I bet Corbyn wished he had.

Still for the sake fairness in this election Boris Minor should step up and take his six of the best from the Headmaster.

 


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