decimated industrial communities of the North of England never saw a shilling of this rebate, a welfare state bill that is probably close to hundreds of billions over the years, third and fourth generations of families on benefits and never will have employment in their lifetimes , blah blah blah.

Heseltine- you forgot to answer my question.

Four Weddings was released under a Tory Government. Best thing they ever did.

That's got nothing to do with your original point.

You said the cost was wrong, I stated the fact that she had improved the country's finances, which she had from where they were when she took over.

While I have some sympathy with what you are saying about the North the effect her policies had on different areas of the country is a separate point.

Mind you I will make one point. Any family that contains three or four generations of people who haven't worked are ridiculous. Blaming Thatcher for fecklessness is just wrong.....Four sodding generations and it's her fault? That's taking the biscuit.

In terms of the nation's finances she has paid for this funeral many millions of times over...Just with the rebate.

It does miss the point about the cost of Thatcher's funeral compared to the money she brought in.

As for families that haven't worked for four generations. What the previous generations did doesn't reflect upon the next four. That's a bit of a leap on several factors. You neglect the fact or ignore that the welfare state didn't exist in the same generous fashion that many generations ago.....No disability benefit...Which if I'm not mistaken Major brought in.

Also, you can't expect industries not to reflect the reality of globalisation and the fact that these jobs were uneconomic. Countries with far smaller Labour costs could do them cheaper....What exactly are you asking a government to do? Ignore reality?

Also, no one has a 'right' to a job. You have to go out and get it. If the local area doesn't supply the work you can't tell me that it's valid for four generations of a family to sit on benefits and blame someone else.

You can get educated you can train....Four sodding generations is a joke.

It does miss the point about the cost of Thatcher's funeral compared to the money she brought in.

As for families that haven't worked for four generations. What the previous generations did doesn't reflect upon the next four. That's a bit of a leap on several factors. You neglect the fact or ignore that the welfare state didn't exist in the same generous fashion that many generations ago.....No disability benefit...Which if I'm not mistaken Major brought in.

Also, you can't expect industries not to reflect the reality of globalisation and the fact that these jobs were uneconomic. Countries with far smaller Labour costs could do them cheaper....What exactly are you asking a government to do? Ignore reality?

Also, no one has a 'right' to a job. You have to go out and get it. If the local area doesn't supply the work you can't tell me that it's valid for four generations of a family to sit on benefits and blame someone else.

You can get educated you can train....Four sodding generations is a joke.