This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
PalazioVecchio south pole 26 Nov 18 8.19pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by steve1984
We have full control over immigration from outside the EU and yet it's at about 250k pa. About the same number as arrived from the EU. We had a say, we said welcome. (Which is fine by me)
so you have never lived in Thornton Heath then ?
Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Pussay Patrol 26 Nov 18 8.22pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by steve1984
We have full control over immigration from outside the EU and yet it's at about 250k pa. About the same number as arrived from the EU. We had a say, we said welcome. (Which is fine by me)
correct and the below article outlines the fact that we already have the powers to control immigration, we CHOOSE not to But I suppose it depends if you really want the information and facts or if you are suckered into believing the sensationalised tabloid garbage and say things like 'we have no say 'ít's forced on us' or 'we are being ruled' More and more people are waking up to the lies and myths, many people who voted leave were conned and the groundswell of opinion for a 2nd vote gathers momentum. And then there's the gammon....
Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
.TUX. 26 Nov 18 8.49pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
correct and the below article outlines the fact that we already have the powers to control immigration, we CHOOSE not to But I suppose it depends if you really want the information and facts or if you are suckered into believing the sensationalised tabloid garbage and say things like 'we have no say 'ít's forced on us' or 'we are being ruled' More and more people are waking up to the lies and myths, many people who voted leave were conned and the groundswell of opinion for a 2nd vote gathers momentum. And then there's the gammon.... ....who voted Remain because they are just to dumb to see what's been done to them. You are a good citizen.
Buy Litecoin. |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Mstrobez 26 Nov 18 8.53pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
correct and the below article outlines the fact that we already have the powers to control immigration, we CHOOSE not to But I suppose it depends if you really want the information and facts or if you are suckered into believing the sensationalised tabloid garbage and say things like 'we have no say 'ít's forced on us' or 'we are being ruled' More and more people are waking up to the lies and myths, many people who voted leave were conned and the groundswell of opinion for a 2nd vote gathers momentum. And then there's the gammon.... I’m not anti-immigration in any sense. I genuinely believe it’s enriched our country. And that’s supported economically. I agree we had the control to cut immigration from the EU and chose not to, for financial reasons. But freedom of movement has been used by politicians as a gateway to exploit desperate people without a shadow of a doubt. It’s actually pretty immoral. Some of the working conditions of EU nationals in this country is a disgrace. So it’s frustrating when people paint freedom of movement as some sort of freedom-loving integrative utopian project. It’s nothing other than a mechanism to keep the gravy train rolling. At the expense of real people. That’s where I think the whole concept of an honourable Brexit is misunderstood. This is a decision of principle. People are seeking a revolutionary economic and political change. Citing what may or may not occur in the markets short-medium term is a useless endeavour when people are essentially seeking to burn that very economic climate to the ground. Edited by Mstrobez (26 Nov 2018 8.54pm)
We're the Arthur over ere! |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
.TUX. 26 Nov 18 9.02pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Mstrobez
I’m not anti-immigration in any sense. I genuinely believe it’s enriched our country. And that’s supported economically. I agree we had the control to cut immigration from the EU and chose not to, for financial reasons. But freedom of movement has been used by politicians as a gateway to exploit desperate people without a shadow of a doubt. It’s actually pretty immoral. Some of the working conditions of EU nationals in this country is a disgrace. So it’s frustrating when people paint freedom of movement as some sort of freedom-loving integrative utopian project. It’s nothing other than a mechanism to keep the gravy train rolling. At the expense of real people. That’s where I think the whole concept of an honourable Brexit is misunderstood. This is a decision of principle. People are seeking a revolutionary economic and political change. Citing what may or may not occur in the markets short-medium term is a useless endeavour when people are essentially seeking to burn that very economic climate to the ground. Edited by Mstrobez (26 Nov 2018 8.54pm) Try telling that to the gammon that is Pussy.
Buy Litecoin. |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Pussay Patrol 26 Nov 18 9.52pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Mstrobez
I’m not anti-immigration in any sense. I genuinely believe it’s enriched our country. And that’s supported economically. I agree we had the control to cut immigration from the EU and chose not to, for financial reasons. But freedom of movement has been used by politicians as a gateway to exploit desperate people without a shadow of a doubt. It’s actually pretty immoral. Some of the working conditions of EU nationals in this country is a disgrace. So it’s frustrating when people paint freedom of movement as some sort of freedom-loving integrative utopian project. It’s nothing other than a mechanism to keep the gravy train rolling. At the expense of real people. That’s where I think the whole concept of an honourable Brexit is misunderstood. This is a decision of principle. People are seeking a revolutionary economic and political change. Citing what may or may not occur in the markets short-medium term is a useless endeavour when people are essentially seeking to burn that very economic climate to the ground. Edited by Mstrobez (26 Nov 2018 8.54pm) I value your opinion but it's merely theory and perception My overall, fact based point was around the misconceptions around our relationship with the EU and the fact people voted leave based on these lies and misconceptions
Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
corkery Cork City 26 Nov 18 10.14pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Mstrobez
I’m not anti-immigration in any sense. I genuinely believe it’s enriched our country. Edited by Mstrobez (26 Nov 2018 8.54pm) I went to Luton last weekend. That's your argument gone out the window.
We'll never die |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 26 Nov 18 10.15pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by steve1984
We have full control over immigration from outside the EU and yet it's at about 250k pa. About the same number as arrived from the EU. We had a say, we said welcome. (Which is fine by me)
Interesting point. Even more interesting is the fact none of the immibrexit voters on here have bothered to counter it properly. Other than ‘have you ever been to Thornton Heath’, from someone who I assume, does not live or regularly visit, Thornton Heath. I do find it just a little bit amusing that leaving may make no difference to the rate of immigration to the UK. EU immigration may go down, though. Every cloud. What kind of immigration do you hate the most? EU or ROI?
Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons. |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
steve1984 26 Nov 18 10.39pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
so you have never lived in Thornton Heath then ? Galpins Rd Norbury & Church Rd West Croydon but no never in Forntun 'eef.
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
steve1984 26 Nov 18 10.41pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
but I must admit to having visited Thornton Heath on a number of occasions - kind of hard not to if you've ever spent time at the home of football. What is ROI? Return on Investment or Republic of Ireland?
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
steve1984 26 Nov 18 10.51pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Mstrobez
I agree but they're often still better off than they would be where they came from.
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Stirlingsays 27 Nov 18 4.52am | |
---|---|
Originally posted by steve1984
I agree but they're often still better off than they would be where they came from.
Flooding the country with 300,000 foreigners every year reduces the life chances of our own poor and working classes......It changes the culture mix within their living spaces without them having a say on it....It worsens their access to infrastructure, and in many cases reduces their wage potentials. Brexit showed that most people outside the cities don't want that.....and many with the means have left the cities to an ever increasing rise of foreigners. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Nov 2018 6.01am)
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Registration is now on our new message board
To login with your existing username you will need to convert your account over to the new message board.
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2024 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.