What kind of authoritarian b0llocks is it that the personal choice of not taking a jab would result in the state financially punishing you.

Some hypocrites complain about Putin yet seem oblivious to their own statements.

The truth that all that matters is power, those that have it and those that don't has never been truer....nevertheless I don't see nonsense like financial punishment, then again I initially regarded fears over vaccine passports as a conspiracy theory.

People will use and manipulate words to justify and rationalise just about any old b0llocks they like......you'll will notice that they will never personally be at the rough end and always come out smelling of roses.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Dec 2021 12.31am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

An anecdotal take on how you personally got on with covid isn't really indicative of its effect on the population as a whole. Nobody has claimed that most people catching covid don't get over it without too much trouble. It's more that with a virus that everyone is likely to be exposed to, those who are impacted by it can pay a heavy price (as matter of fact: especially if they aren't vaccinated). Hence why several million people are dead worldwide.

We have put ourselves in a good position with covid, specifically due to getting vaccinated and the protection that brings if or when we do contract covid. Natural infection without vaccination may provide a basic level of protection - certainly less than boosted vaccination though (and clearly overall consequence of using natural infection as way of 'vaccinating' has resulted in a staggering number of deaths). On the other hand getting vaccinated, and catching a 'breakthrough case' is the safest way of getting covid, plus the immune response to this combination appears to blow others completely out of the water (as logically it should), and so it's the sensible move to make for most. Lockdowns are pointless against a variant like this, and whatever the few do, the many have been vaccinated already so it will hopefully be sufficient. Individuals should be able to do as they please, but the blow of the virus has been cushioned by people getting vaccinated, rather than those bragging that they didn't bother. However bad (or not) it gets again, clearly without vaccination it would have been much worse.

People working for the NHS do a tough job, they aren't there for us to burden them with health issues we can largely avoid via a 5 second choice, or to mock them as tiktok dancers. One day you might need these people to save your life. Just as many have over recent months due to making the poor health choice in question, and as consequence delaying various treatment for many others along the way.

Edited by BlueJay (22 Dec 2021 2.16am)

Totally agree with you!

Why do people continue to get PCR tested - if you have symptoms stay indoors and take lemsip etc, by increasing the positive test numbers you are encouraging the lockdown fanatics who are obsessed by case numbers and consequently making lockdown more likely.

Not enough to convince you to stop smoking and moderate the drinking, if excessive! At what level would it need to reach to do that? I am sure the Health Secretary would like to know, even if the Chancellor wouldn't.

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No, but perhaps the children could educate their parents about how to protect their grandparents by limiting contact, and encouraging everyone to be vaccinated. Most of the "little fekkers" seem to understand the science better than the adults.

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