I read this on the morning, under the screaming headlines of course, and then realised it was a bloke at a public speaking seminar saying Hitler was a good public speaker, and those who wanted to be likewise could learn a lot from his style.

He was right.

The end.

You know Kermit.....Sometimes they are out to get you.

Certain demographics haven't done at all well from the reality of increased immigration from the EU......Namely the working class.

Ukip give them a voice.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Mind you that could be said of all parties.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Aug 2014 3.35pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Exactly Nick. The article came from the Daily Mail. And who does the Daily Mail support? And who is eroding it's vote?

I am no fan of UKIP but this is just really silly and as ever the Mail makes me angry.

If you want to learn tactics you study a master tactician. It doesn't matter why they were doing it, the lesson on this occasion was how do they do it. Are you seriously saying we shouldn't learn from history?

Probably using Hitler as an example in this case was only silly because it should have been obvious that the whole of the meeja and the political establishment are looking for dirt to dish and this is a cheap way to score points against UKIP.

And by the way, we studied Hitler's modus operandi in some depth in my first Degree precisely because it was kind of an inverted psychoanalysis and was an interesting case study.

Edited by Mapletree (11 Aug 2014 3.54pm)

It seems you touched a nerve there BE. Funnily enough I don't see UKIP as a bunch of racists, or a bunch of anything. They don't have enough unity for that. But their single common issue is based on immigration.

Mind you, some of the most vocal people against further immigration that I have come across are prior generations of immigrants. The old 'get in quick and shut the door behind' you mentality.

So being anti-immigration is not automatically racist. But making it your one and only policy has to be viewed with some suspicion in my view.

Edited by Mapletree (11 Aug 2014 4.22pm)

yes i was born hear and i'm proud to be british but i'm also half Jamaican and equally proud so it's up to myself which flag i use and i have used the flag of st george in the past on hear.

Anyway did you know Stirlingsays that there is a speech that Nigel Farage made in the 1990's where he uses the N word over and over again to describe the likes off me.

He may have black people in his party now but deep down Nigel does'nt want black and white mixing in schools or anywhere else for that matter.

Nigel is a one trick pony who'es only policy is immigration.

i'm not really into politics but never in a million years would i vote for Ukip.