I and others have been highly criticised for our skeptical opinion of how covid has been dealt with.

Maple criticised me on this specifically because I hadn't shown any views from epidemiologists and specific virus specialists. Ok, when looking into this there are in fact very eminent specialists who have done exactly that, including a Noble prize winner. It's policy approach maps quite accurately to the arguments made by myself and others on here.

It's called the Great Barrington Declaration and the link will be at the bottom of the page.

The most notable signers are:

Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.

Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yup and on a tangent how about climate change !!!!

Of course, it's not a joke. Nor is it a surprise that the modelling will show best and worst case scenarios. The point is that there is a general agreement over where we are headed and what needs to be done. At least among the actual experts. Politicians who don't listen to experts but believe their instincts are all too obvious. There were 100 of them making fools of themselves last week.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Given your indefensible position on everything to do with the pandemic, this won't surprise anyone.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Not knowing enough is reason enough to apply the brake. You don't drive around a bend until you can see what's there. You can release the brake if it's clear, but not apply it after a crash.

The modelling clearly suggests we are going to face problems. The NHS are already preparing contingency plans.

Of course, those who know need to speak out. No-one is saying they know exactly what will happen, but that we need to be prepared. All of us.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

That’s not the point. If a country doesn’t have “free” healthcare why should the population protect the service they do have in the way we are encouraged to support the NHS?
I’ve lived in Australia and New Zealand. Didn’t go the doctors in Australia but went once in NZ which cost about $20 but that was 40 years ago.