No...this is my argument.

Tommy Robinson amplifies the cases of Muslim grooming gangs to suit his political agenda. This is despite the fact that experts in the area disagree with his conclusions.

He does this to imply that there is something particular within Islamic culture which condones or allows grooming and CSE to take place.

I'm saying that, historically, this is clearly not true.

CSE is a serious and often unreported problem. Those tackling it should do so indiscriminately and with society's full backing. Instead, we are slashing the budget of social services, and giving more of a platform to a man with a barely disguised agenda than to the experts.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

Or maybe they are just following the line of most experts who say that there is insufficient evidence as most cases of CSE go unreported? As I say, when in a case as sensitive as this you make such bold and contentious claims off the basis of what is accepted to be insufficient evidence, you are threatening to bring the whole issue in to disrepute.

As for EDL violence and incitement to murder, take these quotes from wiki: [Link]

Copsey noted that "it is hard to escape the conclusion that, on the ground, the EDL is a violent organisation."[173] In various cases, EDL demonstrators have damaged Asian-owned businesses and property;[277] in October 2011, EDL members stormed and ransacked an Islamic bookstore,[133] and in August 2011 an EDL member was convicted for vandalising a mosque.[278] Demonstrations have also led to physical attacks on Asians themselves.[245] Not all targets of EDL violence have been Muslim; in a July 2010 demonstration in Dudley, EDL members attacked a Hindu temple. It is unclear whether they mistook it for a mosque or whether it reflected broader racist attitudes among the demonstrators extending beyond Islamophobia.[162]

And Darren Osbourne who attacked Finsbury Park mosque was a member of Britain First and read Tommy Robinson's material: [Link]

Further on in the wiki piece: "On 7 December 2011, EDL activist Simon Beech was one of two men jailed for ten years for an arson attack on a mosque."

Finally, I don't dismiss facts. I dismiss conclusions. The fact that grooming groups are disproportionately Asian is NOT the same as the conclusion that this means we should have a ban on Muslims coming in to this country, that the media is on some PC conspiracy or that Islamic culture is particularly guilty of CSE. No expert in the field would claim it, only those with a predisposition to blame Muslims for all our social ills would be callous enough to weaponise it, all the while, like I say, remaining silent as our government slashes the budgets of those who actually help in these cases.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

and also it would be nice if they made more effort to integrate and assimilate with everybody else. Something Tommy commented upon. Building bridges and all that.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (03 Aug 2018 7.39pm)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Serial
Woman are only half of a man according to the qoran.
Fact.
The people you protect,and compare with mostly I state mostly individual sexual practices have this thought process. Even their own women are second class citizens.
Until the book they live their lives by is adapted, re written or not believed to be how it really is nowadays,nothing you say or believe is going to stop it.
Get with the game and stop trying to be a hero.

"For the wife does not rule over her own body, but the husband does..."
1 Corinthians 7:4

Now how f####d up is that .. really.

All religions are a bit nuts. Ban all Christians?

Apart from the partial quote the Christian bible isn't accepted by most Christians as the virtue word of God. It's meant to be inspired by him.

However, the Qu'ran is considered by Muslims to be the perfect world of god that can't be changed.

Hence Christians and Jews have a far easier time ignoring passages that they find unpalatable......However, this is far less easy for a pious Muslim.

This is why despite the Bible...or more specifically the old testament being more violent than any other book the number of fundamentalists from this book are considerably lower than we find in Islam.

I have to continually repeat this point to the left who conflate Islam to other religions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Aug 2018 9.16pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)