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 big_palace_fan  31 May 16 3.43pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Come on Cucking.... spill the beans as to what his mum told you..... Hoof you're what, 50+ and still making jokes about people's mothers, this isn't the house of commons you know
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| DanH SW2 31 May 16 3.47pm |
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Originally posted by mezzer
The odds have come in on Betfair this week about leaving, but it's still odds on remain. Interestingly they think that Russia beating England in the first Euro 2016 group match and us leaving the EU are the same. It's worth remembering that Glastonbury starts on the Referendum date so there's 200,000 potential in voters who most likely won't have got their postal votes sorted. Also, our group games will have finished that week and if we've failed to qualify I can see a lot of "sod 'em" votes. 199,999. Mine went off in the post this morning.
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| mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 31 May 16 3.58pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
199,999. Mine went off in the post this morning. That's the one that'll swing it Dan. Latest poll released for the Guardian this afternoon put the Leaves ahead for the first time. My 9/2 I took last week doesn't look so bad now.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 31 May 16 3.59pm |
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Originally posted by Johnny Eagles
The referendum pledge was made back in Jan 2013 purely for reasons of 'Conservative Party' management.UKIP was in the ascendancy and Cameron wanted to appease his eurosceptic backbenchers and stop defections to UKIP. In fact Cameron informed the Lib-Dems that he really had to do this as it was a party management issue and that he was under a great deal of pressure.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 31 May 16 4.01pm |
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Originally posted by mezzer
That's the one that'll swing it Dan. Latest poll released for the Guardian this afternoon put the Leaves ahead for the first time. My 9/2 I took last week doesn't look so bad now. Polls ? Remember them before the last 'General Election' !
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| mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 31 May 16 4.12pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Polls ? Remember them before the last 'General Election' ! Yep. And I backed the Tories then at 7-1 because actually talking to people in the lead up showed those odds to be false.
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Johnny Eagles  berlin 31 May 16 4.24pm |
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Originally posted by mezzer
Yep. And I backed the Tories then at 7-1 because actually talking to people in the lead up showed those odds to be false. You got 7/1 on a Tory majority?!
Wow.
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| mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 31 May 16 4.41pm |
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Sadly I bottled the opportunity of a double with Leicester to win the league!
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| davenotamonkey 31 May 16 6.26pm |
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Originally posted by big_palace_fan
One of my housemates ideologically backs Brexit but wants to work in finance when he's older. Thus he has voted remain. I reckon vast swaths of unsure people will remain. I have never heard my mum say anything but pro-Brexit arguments and she says we should remain as well. Genuinely baffling. We are the economic capital of Europe (yes, Europe, not the EU), if not possibly the world. The next biggest financial leviathan? Zurich. Not in the EU. How does it manage? How does Hong Kong manage? Singapore? New York? None of these are in the EU, yet are financial powerhouses. What does non-UK EU have? Frankfurt and Paris. I find myself sadly shaking my head at the complete lack of vision and self-belief in our nation. So very sad to see how we've become a people cowed and brow-beaten into subservience by scary bedtime stories.
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| davenotamonkey 31 May 16 6.27pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Dave.... stop it now.... Kermit must be fed up to the back teeth of you taking down his trousers and pants and giving him a spanking! Heheh - much more effective than those after-school detentions they dish out these days!
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| davenotamonkey 31 May 16 6.35pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Interesting - The UK cannot just leave the EU, it has to negotiate an exit over a two year period, possibly longer if the Referendum result is close enough to appeal the decision or force a recount etc (so say two years and six weeks). Which I guess makes sense, given the UK has obligations to the EU it has already given notice to undertake etc. Still, interesting times and all that. Article 50 (the section of the treaty we would invoke if we leave) gives provision for up to two years of negotiations. If the EU were to deliberately sabotage and/or derail negotiations during this time (contrary to its own Treaty, Article 8(1)) then we would find ourselves trading at WTO "Most Preferred Nation" rates. It would be a powerful lesson to those still in the EU: leave and we'll fcuk with you. That's not the kind of club I'd like to be in, frankly. A bit Mafioso. I doubt it would stem the tide of those scrabbling to leave. Given the degree of regulatory convergence between the EU and an exiting UK, the petty "you're not our friend anymore" approach is literally the ONLY means to derail a trade agreement. As we already adopt the laws and regulations for export to the EU, none of the long FTA harmonisation rounds are needed. My bet: an EU-UK trade deal before or soon after Christmas.
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| davenotamonkey 31 May 16 6.36pm |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
Article 50 (the section of the treaty we would invoke if we leave) gives provision for up to two years of negotiations. If the EU were to deliberately sabotage and/or derail negotiations during this time (contrary to its own Treaty, Article 8(1)) then we would find ourselves trading at WTO "Most Preferred Nation" rates. It would be a powerful lesson to those still in the EU: leave and we'll fcuk with you. That's not the kind of club I'd like to be in, frankly. A bit Mafioso. I doubt it would stem the tide of those scrabbling to leave. Given the degree of regulatory convergence between the EU and an exiting UK, the petty "you're not our friend anymore" approach is literally the ONLY means to derail a trade agreement. As we already adopt the laws and regulations for export to the EU, none of the long FTA harmonisation rounds are needed. My bet: an EU-UK trade deal before or soon after Christmas. I'll add that it would likely be with a new government, as Cameron is toast after the referendum: win or lose. And deservedly so.
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