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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 16 Dec 21 11.31pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle It will be offered but not accepted by C 25% of footballers who have no intention of getting vaccinated. If they weren’t convinced by the data from previous variants what’s going to change with a less virulent strain? Gerrard is apparently already considering ignoring transfer targets who haven’t been vaccinated As a business decision it makes some sense. Why bother spending 15m on an asset that has a higher risk of negatively affecting themselves, their colleagues or their club vs a vaccinated individual Not saying it’s fair or indiscriminatory but it is logical Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 16 Dec 21 11.31pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It will be offered but not accepted by C 25% of footballers who have no intention of getting vaccinated. If they weren’t convinced by the data from previous variants what’s going to change with a less virulent strain?

Gerrard is apparently already considering ignoring transfer targets who haven’t been vaccinated

As a business decision it makes some sense. Why bother spending 15m on an asset that has a higher risk of negatively affecting themselves, their colleagues or their club vs a vaccinated individual

Not saying it’s fair or indiscriminatory but it is logical

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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BlueJay UK 16 Dec 21 11.35pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle It will be offered but not accepted by C 25% of footballers who have no intention of getting vaccinated. If they weren’t convinced by the data from previous variants what’s going to change with a less virulent strain? I doubt it will. I'm saying that they will have to rely on covid infection to boost their immunity. The data (up to this point) suggests that's not a wise choice though all in all the vast majority should be fine. I can understand Clubs not being pleased about the situation as logically players may well be out for longer if they're not vaccinated. But I guess it is what it is. Footballers aren't known for their intelligence, so we'll just have to hope covid becomes mild enough or immunity wide enough that in a few months it's less of an issue.
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BlueJay

UK 16 Dec 21 11.35pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I doubt it will. I'm saying that they will have to rely on covid infection to boost their immunity. The data (up to this point) suggests that's not a wise choice though all in all the vast majority should be fine.

I can understand Clubs not being pleased about the situation as logically players may well be out for longer if they're not vaccinated. But I guess it is what it is. Footballers aren't known for their intelligence, so we'll just have to hope covid becomes mild enough or immunity wide enough that in a few months it's less of an issue.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 16 Dec 21 11.37pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle It will be offered but not accepted by C 25% of footballers who have no intention of getting vaccinated. If they weren’t convinced by the data from previous variants what’s going to change with a less virulent strain? Also no one knows for sure (yet) whether it’s significantly less virulent or not. The media seem to think they do though Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 16 Dec 21 11.37pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Also no one knows for sure (yet) whether it’s significantly less virulent or not. The media seem to think they do though

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Teddy Eagle 16 Dec 21 11.37pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Gerrard is apparently already considering ignoring transfer targets who haven’t been vaccinated As a business decision it makes some sense. Why bother spending 15m on an asset that has a higher risk of negatively affecting themselves, their colleagues or their club vs a vaccinated individual Not saying it’s fair or indiscriminatory but it is logical Absolutely logical from a business standpoint but only likely to affect the 1 or 2 players he might buy who are in this situation.
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Teddy Eagle

16 Dec 21 11.37pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Gerrard is apparently already considering ignoring transfer targets who haven’t been vaccinated

As a business decision it makes some sense. Why bother spending 15m on an asset that has a higher risk of negatively affecting themselves, their colleagues or their club vs a vaccinated individual

Not saying it’s fair or indiscriminatory but it is logical

Absolutely logical from a business standpoint but only likely to affect the 1 or 2 players he might buy who are in this situation.

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Eaglecoops CR3 16 Dec 21 11.38pm
I wonder if some of the protagonists on here are busy writing to the club stating that players should be jabbed to protect the NHS otherwise they are going to withdraw their support ? 25% refusing to be vaccinated. It’s kind of ironic that a football chat where some think you should be hung drawn and slaughtered for not being jabbed are happy to support massively overpaid sportsmen who refuse to help the NHS.
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CR3 16 Dec 21 11.38pm

I wonder if some of the protagonists on here are busy writing to the club stating that players should be jabbed to protect the NHS otherwise they are going to withdraw their support ?

25% refusing to be vaccinated. It’s kind of ironic that a football chat where some think you should be hung drawn and slaughtered for not being jabbed are happy to support massively overpaid sportsmen who refuse to help the NHS.

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Teddy Eagle 16 Dec 21 11.39pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Also no one knows for sure (yet) whether it’s significantly less virulent or not. The media seem to think they do though The level of virulence is moot; these players have decided not to get jabbed after seeing the effects of previous variants which were probably more threatening.
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16 Dec 21 11.39pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Also no one knows for sure (yet) whether it’s significantly less virulent or not. The media seem to think they do though

The level of virulence is moot; these players have decided not to get jabbed after seeing the effects of previous variants which were probably more threatening.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 16 Dec 21 11.48pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle The level of virulence is moot; these players have decided not to get jabbed after seeing the effects of previous variants which were probably more threatening. Yeah that point was more of a segue and less related to player reasoning, and part response to definitive posts around whether this is milder or not That’s up to them - I can’t pretend I know why they’d refuse it, certainly all won’t be for the same reason. Not sure how you can definitively claim to know why all of them have… But it could potentially have a negative effect on them either virally or financially in the short term Edited by SW19 CPFC (16 Dec 2021 11.57pm) Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 16 Dec 21 11.48pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The level of virulence is moot; these players have decided not to get jabbed after seeing the effects of previous variants which were probably more threatening.

Yeah that point was more of a segue and less related to player reasoning, and part response to definitive posts around whether this is milder or not

That’s up to them - I can’t pretend I know why they’d refuse it, certainly all won’t be for the same reason. Not sure how you can definitively claim to know why all of them have…

But it could potentially have a negative effect on them either virally or financially in the short term

Edited by SW19 CPFC (16 Dec 2021 11.57pm)

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 16 Dec 21 11.56pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops I wonder if some of the protagonists on here are busy writing to the club stating that players should be jabbed to protect the NHS otherwise they are going to withdraw their support ? 25% refusing to be vaccinated. It’s kind of ironic that a football chat where some think you should be hung drawn and slaughtered for not being jabbed are happy to support massively overpaid sportsmen who refuse to help the NHS. Not really They can do what they want Doesn’t mean I have to agree with their choices, equally doesn’t mean that I’m five years old and ‘no longer want to be their friend’ I know a couple of people that aren’t vaccinated. Don’t agree with it but it’s their choice - we’ve debated it several times, and because we’re mature adults that’s absolutely natural, fine and frankly more honest and respectful than being overly emotional or unable to respect the other persons point of view It’s only when accepted data and science start to be dismissed and replaced by spurious dross that I switch off. Down that road lies Matthau .TUX and the lizard men But of a weird point, really Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 16 Dec 21 11.56pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I wonder if some of the protagonists on here are busy writing to the club stating that players should be jabbed to protect the NHS otherwise they are going to withdraw their support ?

Not really

They can do what they want

Doesn’t mean I have to agree with their choices, equally doesn’t mean that I’m five years old and ‘no longer want to be their friend’

I know a couple of people that aren’t vaccinated. Don’t agree with it but it’s their choice - we’ve debated it several times, and because we’re mature adults that’s absolutely natural, fine and frankly more honest and respectful than being overly emotional or unable to respect the other persons point of view

It’s only when accepted data and science start to be dismissed and replaced by spurious dross that I switch off. Down that road lies Matthau .TUX and the lizard men

But of a weird point, really

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Dec 21 11.59pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle The level of virulence is moot; these players have decided not to get jabbed after seeing the effects of previous variants which were probably more threatening. If true then they too are completely missing the point, as do the anti-vaxers posting here. This isn't about anyone's personal safety. It's about all our safety and making sure the NHS is not overwhelmed by admissions of, mostly unvaccinated, Covid patients, thus damaging its capacity to serve other needs. One of which anyone of us may need, anytime. If such a simple step can help prevent that, then it's unforgivable for anyone to put "personal liberty" or nervousness, ahead of their responsibilities to the wider society. I am astonished at some of the comments being posted on this subject. They are either appallingly naive, ignorant or selfish. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 16 Dec 21 11.59pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The level of virulence is moot; these players have decided not to get jabbed after seeing the effects of previous variants which were probably more threatening.

If true then they too are completely missing the point, as do the anti-vaxers posting here.

This isn't about anyone's personal safety. It's about all our safety and making sure the NHS is not overwhelmed by admissions of, mostly unvaccinated, Covid patients, thus damaging its capacity to serve other needs. One of which anyone of us may need, anytime.

If such a simple step can help prevent that, then it's unforgivable for anyone to put "personal liberty" or nervousness, ahead of their responsibilities to the wider society.

I am astonished at some of the comments being posted on this subject. They are either appallingly naive, ignorant or selfish.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 17 Dec 21 12.04am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Yeah that point was more of a segue and less related to player reasoning, and part response to definitive posts around whether this is milder or not That’s up to them - I can’t pretend I know why they’d refuse it, certainly all won’t be for the same reason. Not sure how you can definitively claim to know why all of them have… But it could potentially have a negative effect on them either virally or financially in the short term Edited by SW19 CPFC (16 Dec 2021 11.57pm) Absolutely. Hence the suggestion that they be used as a test sample to try and establish why others won’t get jabbed. Of course footballers may think their youth and fitness level might protect them but it’s still worth finding out their reasoning.
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17 Dec 21 12.04am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Yeah that point was more of a segue and less related to player reasoning, and part response to definitive posts around whether this is milder or not

That’s up to them - I can’t pretend I know why they’d refuse it, certainly all won’t be for the same reason. Not sure how you can definitively claim to know why all of them have…

But it could potentially have a negative effect on them either virally or financially in the short term

Edited by SW19 CPFC (16 Dec 2021 11.57pm)

Absolutely. Hence the suggestion that they be used as a test sample to try and establish why others won’t get jabbed. Of course footballers may think their youth and fitness level might protect them but it’s still worth finding out their reasoning.

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Teddy Eagle 17 Dec 21 12.09am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle If true then they too are completely missing the point, as do the anti-vaxers posting here. This isn't about anyone's personal safety. It's about all our safety and making sure the NHS is not overwhelmed by admissions of, mostly unvaccinated, Covid patients, thus damaging its capacity to serve other needs. One of which anyone of us may need, anytime. If such a simple step can help prevent that, then it's unforgivable for anyone to put "personal liberty" or nervousness, ahead of their responsibilities to the wider society. I am astonished at some of the comments being posted on this subject. They are either appallingly naive, ignorant or selfish. Well it is true because the stats have been publicised. I agree it would be to the greater good if everyone got every jab going but we need to find out why their reasons for non-vaccination.
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17 Dec 21 12.09am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If true then they too are completely missing the point, as do the anti-vaxers posting here.

If such a simple step can help prevent that, then it's unforgivable for anyone to put "personal liberty" or nervousness, ahead of their responsibilities to the wider society.

I am astonished at some of the comments being posted on this subject. They are either appallingly naive, ignorant or selfish.

Well it is true because the stats have been publicised.
I agree it would be to the greater good if everyone got every jab going but we need to find out why their reasons for non-vaccination.

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 17 Dec 21 12.11am
Originally posted by BlueJay Everyone will be getting their free Omicron booster imminently so it may become less relevant. There's certainly more logical approaches than vaccine dodging, but we'll all end up in a similar place on account of a mix of vaccination and infection. All in all we're in about as good shape as possible to deal with whatever pops up, and that's not a bad way to view it. Where do you get this from? Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Originally posted by BlueJay

Everyone will be getting their free Omicron booster imminently so it may become less relevant. There's certainly more logical approaches than vaccine dodging, but we'll all end up in a similar place on account of a mix of vaccination and infection. All in all we're in about as good shape as possible to deal with whatever pops up, and that's not a bad way to view it.

Where do you get this from?

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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