Claims of dodgy votes for a Delaware journalist apparently. Also strange stuff happening in Arizona.

Would anyone be surprised if the Clinton mob tried something like this? They are dirty to the core.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Nov 2020 2.36pm)

Different States are counting in different ways.

Any state counting mail in votes last is going to see a blue uptick. EVERY state can count tiny rural counties quickly while struggle in big cities - pretty obvious.

Trump gets rural America hands down, but the cities and suburbs are not with him.

Biden now leads in Wisconsin and Michigan (few minutes ago) along with a slim lead in Nevada.

Lots of urban and mail in (heavily favoring democrats generally) are not counted around Philly, Detroit and Atlanta.

Could go either way but I would rather be a democrat currently.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Go back to bed, Donald.

Didnt know Trump was on here.

The strange thing happening in AZ is Trump getting resoundingly repudiated.

Edited by Maine Eagle (04 Nov 2020 2.40pm)

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

whats happened to stirling? anybody? He would should all over this thread.Is he well?

Thanks maine, i haven"t seen him on here for weeks! On this thread, im feeling a little more confident joe can scrape through, nearly chucked in the towel after florida, but you never know!

If Biden gets more electoral college seats should Trump concede? Yes. That is the way democracy works.

Have the Democrats, with their Deep State backers, gamed this election? Then without a shadow of a doubt. These postal votes stink, they really do but unless large, wide scaled fraud can be proved (and to be fair, I think any claims do need to be stress tested through the courts) then the result has to stand.

All I do know is that if large states like Texas and Florida can collect and then count their votes and give a result on the day, then I struggle to comprehend why others cannot. Covid is just a BS excuse. And in any other 'normal' election cycle, Trump would have strolled this election.

Biden will probably be President. But with a Senate that is dominated by Republicans. He is a lame duck leader presciding over a country riven in half with some serious questions to be asked about the tactics that got him into the job.

NOBODY emerges from this with any kind of credit. And with the biggest irony of all being that the most maligned and slated group of people in 2020 aka White males, are the ones who perhaps have defeated Trump with his share of the vote in almost every other category actually increasing. Which when you think for a man who has been constantly derided as being both sexist and racist is not a bad legacy.

Democracy is the real loser today, no matter what the outcome. Trump has built up an almost cult like following and they will not take this result lightly.

A shocking election and perhaps a lesson for all of us. With those who did their best to over turn the Brexit result from 2016 along with cheering on the fruitless attempts to somehow impeach Trump over the last four years no doubt crowing about 'democracy'.

Do any of us honestly care anymore about a truly 'fair' outcome? Or are we all so twisted up in the cylce of fear and loathing stoked by all sides in our political process, allied with a Social Media industry who care for nothing else other than click bait that we have simply abandoned the notion of agreeing to not agree but to do so in a civilised manner?

Guilty as charged here. Have to admit that. Need to change that.

I have seen what a real civil war looks like. Stood in charred ruins, still able to smell the fire in the air they destroyed the roof (you want to 'cleanse' a village or town of people you don't like then you drive them out of their homes, set fire to their roofs and let nature do the rest. Nobody is every setting foot back in that property again).

We are heading that way. We truly are. Unless we somehow all pull back from the brink and accept the results of elections, even if we do not agree with them.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.