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Stirlingsays  16 Dec 21 1.00pm |
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Whitty is essentially defending the government's approach because he is ultimately responsible for it. What does Dan seriously expect him to say. The good thing is that ultimately everything can be tested statistically.....from countries that didn't lockdown to those that did, cancer and other deaths compared to covid hospitalizations..which has been at a low figure for quite a while....seemingly in contrast to how he presented it here.
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| DanH SW2 16 Dec 21 1.06pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
And how do you think they are going to crack COVID? They are not, so he might as well have said, be prepared for a lot of people to die from other things which is probably more true. You are a socialist Dan, how do you respond to my comment made to WE on work or have nothing? They can keep people out of hospital by getting people vaccinated and slowing the spread down so they can focus on other patients. This really isn’t difficult to grasp is it? I’m not a socialist. I agree with some aspects of socialism that are for the greater good of society but it’s a massive stretch to call myself a socialist.
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| DanH SW2 16 Dec 21 1.08pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Whitty is essentially defending the government's approach because he is ultimately responsible for it. What does Dan seriously expect him to say. The good thing is that ultimately everything can be tested statistically.....from countries that didn't lockdown to those that did, cancer and other deaths compared to covid hospitalizations..which has been at a low figure for quite a while....seemingly in contrast to how he presented it here. Shock horror, another expert in a field far more qualified than you that you glibly dismiss. What he says is just common sense. It’s blindingly obvious to anyone with the capacity to think. And if you watched Whitty alongside Johnson it’s quite clear that the government are not following his recommendations.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Dec 21 1.15pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
Shock horror, another expert in a field far more qualified than you that you glibly dismiss. What he says is just common sense. It’s blindingly obvious to anyone with the capacity to think. And if you watched Whitty alongside Johnson it’s quite clear that the government are not following his recommendations. That's an argument from authority fallacy. The differences between Johnson and Whitty don't appear that dramatic, it's on extent and timing not policy approach.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 16 Dec 21 1.19pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
They can keep people out of hospital by getting people vaccinated and slowing the spread down so they can focus on other patients. This really isn’t difficult to grasp is it? but you did previously confess to being a Feminist DanH , n'est pa ? which society ? just women ? just refugees ? just minorities ? Socialism destroys society. Every time. And i hate to share this fact with yourself and all your buddies at the BBC...........NOBODY WANTS TO WATCH THE WOMEN'S FOOTBALL
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Dec 21 1.19pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Whitty is essentially defending the government's approach because he is ultimately responsible for it. What does Dan seriously expect him to say. The good thing is that ultimately everything can be tested statistically.....from countries that didn't lockdown to those that did, cancer and other deaths compared to covid hospitalizations..which has been at a low figure for quite a while....seemingly in contrast to how he presented it here. It takes about a month of Covid deaths to cover one day of cancer deaths. Cancer deaths creeping up and up, some say between 8 and 18 percent. As you say, massively outweighing Covid. That's not to mention heart disease, and mental health and, ultimately suicide deaths. All of which I have personally seen during the pandemic.
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| DanH SW2 16 Dec 21 1.20pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
but you did previously confess to being a Feminist DanH , n'est pa ? which society ? just women ? just refugees ? just minorities ? Socialism destroys society. Every time. And i hate to share this fact with yourself and all your buddies at the BBC...........NOBODY WANTS TO WATCH THE WOMEN'S FOOTBALL Are you OK? Like genuinely? Do we need to send someone round to check on him?
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| Stirlingsays 16 Dec 21 1.25pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
It takes about a month of Covid deaths to cover one day of cancer deaths. Cancer deaths creeping up and up, some say between 8 and 18 percent. As you say, massively outweighing Covid. That's not to mention heart disease, and mental health and, ultimately suicide deaths. All of which I have personally seen during the pandemic. I don't think they are going to be able to cover it all up and the decisions made are going to come through into the statistics as you say. Let's just hope that none of us here personally suffer for it all.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 16 Dec 21 1.42pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I don't think they are going to be able to cover it all up and the decisions made are going to come through into the statistics as you say. Let's just hope that none of us here personally suffer for it all. Well, a good friend of mine sat in Mayday A&E for 7 hours on Monday on a chair suffering from a stroke at age 41 (no ambulance available 3 kids and no father so she had to take them with her!) I would say our NHS is pretty much fooked already. They sent her home with a letter for referral to St Georges. She is currently none the wiser to why she had a stroke.
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| DanH SW2 16 Dec 21 1.45pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Well, a good friend of mine sat in Mayday A&E for 7 hours on Monday on a chair suffering from a stroke at age 41 (no ambulance available 3 kids and no father so she had to take them with her!) I would say our NHS is pretty much fooked already. They sent her home with a letter for referral to St Georges. She is currently none the wiser to why she had a stroke. Did you listen to what Chris Whitty said?
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| Eaglecoops CR3 16 Dec 21 1.46pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
They can keep people out of hospital by getting people vaccinated and slowing the spread down so they can focus on other patients. This really isn’t difficult to grasp is it? I’m not a socialist. I agree with some aspects of socialism that are for the greater good of society but it’s a massive stretch to call myself a socialist. Sorry, I just presumed from a lot of your posts that you were. Let me re-phrase. As a person who has an interest in those less fortunate than ourselves how do you feel about the choices left to those when faced with the question, “protect the nhs or starve”.
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