Obviously I hope you're correct.

There are of course significant differences between how that pandemic and this one has been handled, socially and of course economically....perhaps your past family, mine and by extension us wouldn't have been able to live as nice a lifestyle if it hadn't been.

However, I view the move towards control systems as almost out in the open and fears over health is always going to be the easiest conduit towards it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Dec 2021 9.37am)

Not quite sure how this is going to work. Loads of people with minor if any symptoms who possibly have access to a test although given the lack of them around, unlikely to find one to take. So do you reckon they will stay at home on the basis they might have it rather than a minor sniffle. That won’t work well for skint families leading up to Christmas.

Similarly lockdowns will fail as it has already been proven this just kicks the can down the road and with the current supposed contagion rate of this variant you would only have to be out of lockdown for a few days and would be back in the same position.

It is getting to the stage now where those who are worried should lock themselves away and the rest should just get on with it. It’s not something you can realistically hide from forever. The first week into the New Year will give us an indication of whether this variant has much effect on the young, the fit and healthy and the vaccinated. It appears unlikely from initial analysis that it is as dangerous as the earlier variants therefore the rest need to take a view on whether they carry on, lock themselves away or change their minds and get vaccinated.

Everyone in this country has had the chance to decide what they want to do for their own safety. It’s time to move on.

In this, and in pretty much every post you make, you ignore the central point of why things are being done to try to mitigate the impact of the anticipate surge.

It's not the impact on any particular group. It's the impact on our health service's ability to function properly. Not just in dealing with Covid patients who require hospitalisation, but for every other service we rely on. Some things are already being postponed to prepare.

It's not just the number of patient's presenting with Covid. It's also the number of NHS workers who are going to be struck down with it.

People just cannot "decide what they want to do for their own safety" when we are dealing with a pandemic, which threatens us all. We have to act together.

Who are these elites then? Name them.

Ah good, all the usual suspects that appear in far right and far left conspiracy theories. Such a free thinker.

Of course people use their money to try and influence. It doesn’t mean that there’s some shadowy cabal running the world.

Ah good, all the usual suspects that appear in far right and far left conspiracy theories. Such a free thinker.

Of course people use their money to try and influence. It doesn’t mean that there’s some shadowy cabal running the world.