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chris123 hove actually 14 Nov 18 5.50pm
Originally posted by corkery The DUP won't like this. No choice really
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hove actually 14 Nov 18 5.50pm

Originally posted by corkery

The DUP won't like this.

No choice really

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Stuk Top half 14 Nov 18 6.12pm
Originally posted by Mapletree I am guessing your aren't an expert negotiator Stu. Still, those experts, pah. Yeah it's all sailed through so smoothly with these so called experts involved hasn't it. And of course none of their predictions have turned out to be incorrect either. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 14 Nov 18 6.12pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I am guessing your aren't an expert negotiator Stu.

Still, those experts, pah.

Yeah it's all sailed through so smoothly with these so called experts involved hasn't it. And of course none of their predictions have turned out to be incorrect either.

Optimistic as ever

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steeleye20 Croydon 14 Nov 18 6.40pm
Another Suez debacle. The first totally our fault finally killed of the empire. The second totally our fault killed off any pretence that we are an important power. The cabinet, parliament, all the frenzy of Whitehall, anything about Brexit, simply are not of any interest to anyone that matters in the World. Who would have thought leaving the EU would make the UK a vassal state. I would, but then I thought about it, leavers never think of anything at all.
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Croydon 14 Nov 18 6.40pm

Another Suez debacle.

The first totally our fault finally killed of the empire.

The second totally our fault killed off any pretence that we are an important power.

The cabinet, parliament, all the frenzy of Whitehall, anything about Brexit, simply are not of any interest to anyone that matters in the World.

Who would have thought leaving the EU would make the UK a vassal state.

I would, but then I thought about it, leavers never think of anything at all.

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Badger11 Beckenham 14 Nov 18 6.50pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Another Suez debacle. The first totally our fault finally killed of the empire. The second totally our fault killed off any pretence that we are an important power. The cabinet, parliament, all the frenzy of Whitehall, anything about Brexit, simply are not of any interest to anyone that matters in the World. Who would have thought leaving the EU would make the UK a vassal state. I would, but then I thought about it, leavers never think of anything at all. Mrs May has gone against her "no deal is better than a bad deal". Corbyn has made it clear Labour will not support it so i cannot see it getting through Parliament unless the Tories put party before country. And if they do they will be out at the next GE. I think we can all agree this was a hopeless negotiation. We should had told the EU straight away we are leaving and going to WTO rules which would have solved all of these issues. Then we could have said to the EU if you want a deal and your 40bn its down to you. In fairness to the EU they offered a Canada plus deal which is how many Brexit politcans wanted to go. So I don't accept that this was inevitable but as soon as May came up with her Chequers proposal it was always going to be a dog's breakfast. What next: We will now see who puts country before party. One more point
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Beckenham 14 Nov 18 6.50pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Another Suez debacle.

The first totally our fault finally killed of the empire.

The second totally our fault killed off any pretence that we are an important power.

The cabinet, parliament, all the frenzy of Whitehall, anything about Brexit, simply are not of any interest to anyone that matters in the World.

Who would have thought leaving the EU would make the UK a vassal state.

I would, but then I thought about it, leavers never think of anything at all.

Mrs May has gone against her "no deal is better than a bad deal". Corbyn has made it clear Labour will not support it so i cannot see it getting through Parliament unless the Tories put party before country. And if they do they will be out at the next GE.

I think we can all agree this was a hopeless negotiation. We should had told the EU straight away we are leaving and going to WTO rules which would have solved all of these issues.

Then we could have said to the EU if you want a deal and your 40bn its down to you. In fairness to the EU they offered a Canada plus deal which is how many Brexit politcans wanted to go. So I don't accept that this was inevitable but as soon as May came up with her Chequers proposal it was always going to be a dog's breakfast.

What next: We will now see who puts country before party.

One more point

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Sir James Hird Mount Martha 14 Nov 18 6.53pm
Needless to say my knowledge of UK/Euro politics is limited as I left UK 40 years ago but as I see it, the future is dependent on how your economy will benefit by having the future in your own hands. Preparing for this to happen should be well advanced, with trade deals already on the table that must be known now. Have you as the population that must make it work been told what they are? Its a harsh world out there.
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Mount Martha 14 Nov 18 6.53pm

Needless to say my knowledge of UK/Euro politics is limited as I left UK 40 years ago but as I see it, the future is dependent on how your economy will benefit by having the future in your own hands.
Preparing for this to happen should be well advanced, with trade deals already on the table that must be known now.
Have you as the population that must make it work been told what they are?
Its a harsh world out there.

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steeleye20 Croydon 14 Nov 18 7.02pm
Originally posted by Sir James Hird Needless to say my knowledge of UK/Euro politics is limited as I left UK 40 years ago but as I see it, the future is dependent on how your economy will benefit by having the future in your own hands. Preparing for this to happen should be well advanced, with trade deals already on the table that must be known now. Have you as the population that must make it work been told what they are? Its a harsh world out there. It is certainly, and you would have expected the UK to know that and have everything in place. But you would be wrong..........
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Croydon 14 Nov 18 7.02pm

Originally posted by Sir James Hird

It is certainly, and you would have expected the UK to know that and have everything in place.

But you would be wrong..........

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Stirlingsays 14 Nov 18 7.11pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Quite so. Presumably you choose your Doctor, Dentist, Financial Advisor and Solicitor based upon 'the cut of their jib'. I do little else. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Nov 18 7.11pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Quite so. Presumably you choose your Doctor, Dentist, Financial Advisor and Solicitor based upon 'the cut of their jib'.

I do little else.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 14 Nov 18 7.14pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Another Suez debacle. The first totally our fault finally killed of the empire. The second totally our fault killed off any pretence that we are an important power. The cabinet, parliament, all the frenzy of Whitehall, anything about Brexit, simply are not of any interest to anyone that matters in the World. Who would have thought leaving the EU would make the UK a vassal state. I would, but then I thought about it, leavers never think of anything at all. In both wars about 40 percent of our forces came from what is now called the commonwealth but was then called the empire or something like that......they were volunteers or already paid troops.....just to counter the narrative that the British empire was always regarded as evil by those within it. I think it was the Suez Crisis that marked the end....though losing India was obviously major. It was the right thing to do of course if handled badly. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Nov 2018 7.16pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Nov 18 7.14pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Another Suez debacle.

The first totally our fault finally killed of the empire.

The second totally our fault killed off any pretence that we are an important power.

The cabinet, parliament, all the frenzy of Whitehall, anything about Brexit, simply are not of any interest to anyone that matters in the World.

Who would have thought leaving the EU would make the UK a vassal state.

I would, but then I thought about it, leavers never think of anything at all.

In both wars about 40 percent of our forces came from what is now called the commonwealth but was then called the empire or something like that......they were volunteers or already paid troops.....just to counter the narrative that the British empire was always regarded as evil by those within it.

I think it was the Suez Crisis that marked the end....though losing India was obviously major. It was the right thing to do of course if handled badly.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Nov 2018 7.16pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Lyons550 Shirley 14 Nov 18 7.30pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Another Suez debacle. The first totally our fault finally killed of the empire. The second totally our fault killed off any pretence that we are an important power. The cabinet, parliament, all the frenzy of Whitehall, anything about Brexit, simply are not of any interest to anyone that matters in the World. Who would have thought leaving the EU would make the UK a vassal state. I would, but then I thought about it, leavers never think of anything at all. When you say 'Our fault' i'm assuming your referring to the lazy f***ers who didnt get off their arse to vote and are just moaning about it? The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 14 Nov 18 7.30pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Another Suez debacle.

The first totally our fault finally killed of the empire.

The second totally our fault killed off any pretence that we are an important power.

The cabinet, parliament, all the frenzy of Whitehall, anything about Brexit, simply are not of any interest to anyone that matters in the World.

Who would have thought leaving the EU would make the UK a vassal state.

I would, but then I thought about it, leavers never think of anything at all.

When you say 'Our fault' i'm assuming your referring to the lazy f***ers who didnt get off their arse to vote and are just moaning about it?

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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Mapletree Croydon 14 Nov 18 7.37pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 When you say 'Our fault' i'm assuming your referring to the lazy f***ers who didnt get off their arse to vote and are just moaning about it? Or, alternatively, he may be talking about the 1.4m people that were marginally too young to vote two years ago but could now. They simply should have got older quicker. Edited by Mapletree (14 Nov 2018 7.37pm)
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Croydon 14 Nov 18 7.37pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

When you say 'Our fault' i'm assuming your referring to the lazy f***ers who didnt get off their arse to vote and are just moaning about it?

Or, alternatively, he may be talking about the 1.4m people that were marginally too young to vote two years ago but could now. They simply should have got older quicker.

Edited by Mapletree (14 Nov 2018 7.37pm)

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Badger11 Beckenham 14 Nov 18 8.00pm
Well the useless cabinet put party before country and have backed the Maybot. I have written to both my MP and the PM not that it will do any good. I will now have to rely on a coalition of the dammed to stop this getting through parliament. She will regret it though as the voters have long memories when it comes to elections. Update Michael Barnier has just give his reaction to the deal [Link] Edited by Badger11 (14 Nov 2018 8.10pm) One more point
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Beckenham 14 Nov 18 8.00pm

Well the useless cabinet put party before country and have backed the Maybot. I have written to both my MP and the PM not that it will do any good.

I will now have to rely on a coalition of the dammed to stop this getting through parliament.

She will regret it though as the voters have long memories when it comes to elections.

Update

Michael Barnier has just give his reaction to the deal

[Link]

Edited by Badger11 (14 Nov 2018 8.10pm)

One more point

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elgrande bedford 14 Nov 18 9.01pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Or, alternatively, he may be talking about the 1.4m people that were marginally too young to vote two years ago but could now. They simply should have got older quicker. Edited by Mapletree (14 Nov 2018 7.37pm) Or the countless people who were just to old or dead...they could have voted too. You can say that anytime a vote is required. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 14 Nov 18 9.01pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Or, alternatively, he may be talking about the 1.4m people that were marginally too young to vote two years ago but could now. They simply should have got older quicker.

Edited by Mapletree (14 Nov 2018 7.37pm)

Or the countless people who were just to old or dead...they could have voted too.

You can say that anytime a vote is required.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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