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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Dec 21 10.53am
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 You know, I really thought Melchett was fictional. I thank you for proving me wrong. Whereas I suppose you see yourself as Baldrick? Having some kind of cunning plan that has no basis in reality. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 15 Dec 21 10.53am

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

You know, I really thought Melchett was fictional. I thank you for proving me wrong.

Whereas I suppose you see yourself as Baldrick?

Having some kind of cunning plan that has no basis in reality.

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Stirlingsays 15 Dec 21 10.57am
Originally posted by steeleye20 This virus is pathetic compared to the one that floored me in the mid-1990s. My GPs advice that he could not treat it, still holds good. You just get better it can be a few days, months or even years. I felt the need to be distanced I've no idea why but I haven't had a cold in 20 years. Who would have thought that a virus would throw an entire nation into a hysterical stasi state. It's an interesting point. I remember that I started to get hayfever really bad in my mid twenties, then one summer it was dreadful, really bad. After that hayfever didn't seem to affect me much until my thirties and at that point they had these amazing products against it.....and before anyone makes the easy point the development cycle would have been the traditional route. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Dec 21 10.57am

Originally posted by steeleye20

This virus is pathetic compared to the one that floored me in the mid-1990s.

My GPs advice that he could not treat it, still holds good.

You just get better it can be a few days, months or even years.

I felt the need to be distanced I've no idea why but I haven't had a cold in 20 years.

Who would have thought that a virus would throw an entire nation into a hysterical stasi state.

It's an interesting point.

I remember that I started to get hayfever really bad in my mid twenties, then one summer it was dreadful, really bad. After that hayfever didn't seem to affect me much until my thirties and at that point they had these amazing products against it.....and before anyone makes the easy point the development cycle would have been the traditional route.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 15 Dec 21 11.07am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I thought that was the point of the vaccine. If someone has been going around without a mask since this turned up then they have likely caught or been exposed to this virus more times then you could shake a stick at it.....they probably have very strong immune levels. If they are ffp3 masks I'd perhaps concede that, if wore correctly, there was a point to some mask usage in high people dense areas. However, it's essentially cloth for the vast majority....but we have travelled down this road many a time. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Dec 2021 10.45am) FFP2s are the lowest bar, from the research I've been prompted to explore. And yes the vaccine will obviously help but personally it makes sense to me to use all available tools to reduce how much infection I get, when I get it. And also to be courteous to others, frankly. But as you say, only really makes sense in high density, indoor situations where you're spending longer than a couple of minutes in there. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 15 Dec 21 11.07am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I thought that was the point of the vaccine.

If someone has been going around without a mask since this turned up then they have likely caught or been exposed to this virus more times then you could shake a stick at it.....they probably have very strong immune levels.

If they are ffp3 masks I'd perhaps concede that, if wore correctly, there was a point to some mask usage in high people dense areas. However, it's essentially cloth for the vast majority....but we have travelled down this road many a time.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Dec 2021 10.45am)

FFP2s are the lowest bar, from the research I've been prompted to explore.

And yes the vaccine will obviously help but personally it makes sense to me to use all available tools to reduce how much infection I get, when I get it. And also to be courteous to others, frankly. But as you say, only really makes sense in high density, indoor situations where you're spending longer than a couple of minutes in there.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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steeleye20 Croydon 15 Dec 21 11.10am
Actually to read of HM opposition voting for Johnson because it is 'patriotic' really takes the biscuit. Patriotic? To vote for him? How about being patriotic and fulfilling the oppositions constitutional duty to oppose the government. One hundred tories did.
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Croydon 15 Dec 21 11.10am

Actually to read of HM opposition voting for Johnson because it is 'patriotic' really takes the biscuit.

Patriotic?

To vote for him?

How about being patriotic and fulfilling the oppositions constitutional duty to oppose the government.

One hundred tories did.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Dec 21 11.11am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays They are going to catch it regardless at some point, as are you. You really don't get it, do you? It's not a question of if. It's a question of when, and how badly. Anything we can do, all of us, acting in our mutual interests, to spread the impact and lessen the load on the NHS, is what matters. Not whether someone's "personal freedoms" have been ruffled so much they feel the need to show the world how macho they are. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 15 Dec 21 11.11am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

They are going to catch it regardless at some point, as are you.

You really don't get it, do you?

It's not a question of if. It's a question of when, and how badly.

Anything we can do, all of us, acting in our mutual interests, to spread the impact and lessen the load on the NHS, is what matters.

Not whether someone's "personal freedoms" have been ruffled so much they feel the need to show the world how macho they are.

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Stirlingsays 15 Dec 21 11.13am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC FFP2s are the lowest bar, from the research I've been prompted to explore. And yes the vaccine will obviously help but personally it makes sense to me to use all available tools to reduce how much infection I get, when I get it. And also to be courteous to others, frankly. But as you say, only really makes sense in high density, indoor situations where you're spending longer than a couple of minutes in there. The politeness point carries the most weight with me.....but just how long is this expected to go on? Personally I'd hope that anyone physically vulnerable stays away from high density areas.....but as some of us have said, the young and healthy catching a mild version is probably realistically the best long term scenario. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Dec 21 11.13am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

FFP2s are the lowest bar, from the research I've been prompted to explore.

The politeness point carries the most weight with me.....but just how long is this expected to go on?

Personally I'd hope that anyone physically vulnerable stays away from high density areas.....but as some of us have said, the young and healthy catching a mild version is probably realistically the best long term scenario.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 15 Dec 21 11.17am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays The politeness point carries the most weight with me.....but just how long is this expected to go on? Personally I'd hope that anyone physically vulnerable stays away from high density areas.....but as some of us have said, the young and healthy catching a mild version is probably realistically the best long term scenario. Mandatory? Obviously not forever Personally I'm going to be wearing one in winter on public transport from now on. Happy to take a cultural learning from the Japanese on this one Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 15 Dec 21 11.17am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The politeness point carries the most weight with me.....but just how long is this expected to go on?

Mandatory? Obviously not forever

Personally I'm going to be wearing one in winter on public transport from now on. Happy to take a cultural learning from the Japanese on this one

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Dec 21 11.18am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Would you approve of Google deciding which information should be accessible? Yes, as it's their right to do so. It would though be a daft thing for them to do, as it would ruin their business model and probably bankrupt them. Google aren't a social media company which hosts discussions. They are a search engine which allows people to find things. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 15 Dec 21 11.18am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Would you approve of Google deciding which information should be accessible?

Yes, as it's their right to do so.

It would though be a daft thing for them to do, as it would ruin their business model and probably bankrupt them.

Google aren't a social media company which hosts discussions. They are a search engine which allows people to find things.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 15 Dec 21 11.21am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Mandatory? Obviously not forever Personally I'm going to be wearing one in winter on public transport from now on. Happy to take a cultural learning from the Japanese on this one You could do much worse...god, I'm such a weebo. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Dec 21 11.21am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Mandatory? Obviously not forever

Personally I'm going to be wearing one in winter on public transport from now on. Happy to take a cultural learning from the Japanese on this one

You could do much worse...god, I'm such a weebo.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Dec 21 11.22am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Mmmm....strange then how Al Gore was so celebrated for the same....just how long did the Democrats go on about that election and what was it....'hanging chads'? With Gore, there was evidence of a machine malfunction that needed to be investigated. That was real. With Trump, there was no evidence of any organised election fraud. That was a conspiracy theory. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 15 Dec 21 11.22am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Mmmm....strange then how Al Gore was so celebrated for the same....just how long did the Democrats go on about that election and what was it....'hanging chads'?

With Gore, there was evidence of a machine malfunction that needed to be investigated. That was real.

With Trump, there was no evidence of any organised election fraud. That was a conspiracy theory.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Dec 21 11.27am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Actually to read of HM opposition voting for Johnson because it is 'patriotic' really takes the biscuit. Patriotic? To vote for him? How about being patriotic and fulfilling the oppositions constitutional duty to oppose the government. One hundred tories did. It's the duty of every MP to do their constitutional duty! Which is to use their conscience to determine what is in the best interests of their constituents. Opposing the government is secondary. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 15 Dec 21 11.27am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Actually to read of HM opposition voting for Johnson because it is 'patriotic' really takes the biscuit.

Patriotic?

To vote for him?

How about being patriotic and fulfilling the oppositions constitutional duty to oppose the government.

One hundred tories did.

It's the duty of every MP to do their constitutional duty!

Which is to use their conscience to determine what is in the best interests of their constituents. Opposing the government is secondary.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 15 Dec 21 12.23pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Yes, as it's their right to do so. It would though be a daft thing for them to do, as it would ruin their business model and probably bankrupt them. Google aren't a social media company which hosts discussions. They are a search engine which allows people to find things. That’s the point. If people can’t find what they’re looking for, within reason of course, how are they to have an opinion? Not everyone is looking for confirmation of their views. [Link]
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Teddy Eagle

15 Dec 21 12.23pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Yes, as it's their right to do so.

It would though be a daft thing for them to do, as it would ruin their business model and probably bankrupt them.

Google aren't a social media company which hosts discussions. They are a search engine which allows people to find things.

That’s the point. If people can’t find what they’re looking for, within reason of course, how are they to have an opinion? Not everyone is looking for confirmation of their views.

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