Not a PEEP repeat Peep would be coming from these whinging remainers if the vote had been to stay in the EU. A bit like the Democrats over here marching & demonstrating because things didn't go their way.

not talking about staying in the EU, but leaving - that is what is happening, that's the here and now. THere is uncertainty - Fact, our currency is weak - Fact, big companies have expressed concern and are reluctant to invest. Not scaremongering, but facts.

Maybe someone can explain how a no deal Brexit is a benefit based on facts?

It wasn't an election though. It was a Referendum with a simple 'Should we stay in the EU Yes or No' Type question even a f***ing dimwit like me understood what it meant. What part didn't you understand ??

Why does a second vote worry you? Apparently we follow the will of the people. If that is still leave you get your way. If it is not you aren’t sticking to the rules.

You can't talk about facts over a situation which hasn't developed. No one can say with certainty how successful Brexit will or won't be.....it's conjecture based upon their own prejudices. In truth you'd need to give it a time span and then look at it....say ten years.

But to answer your question, (because unlike so many on the left I answer questions) a no deal Brexit means the UK can compete with the EU....for example become a tax haven.

I wouldn't say I'd advocate for a no deal as my first choice because it's more initially disruptive but I'd be serious about carrying it out.

To negotiate with the EU without being deadly serious over a no deal is low IQ.....and that's been the position of Labour.....I know in reality they aren't stupid but that's what they have sold to the public...which means they think the public is stupid.

And people wonder why they get criticised over Business.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2018 7.03am)

Here Pussy I agree with you. This has been the most disappointing aspect of Brexit the lack of vision over what next.

Some people are pushing for a low tax regime but in practice that means we would have to massively reduce benefits / state spending which I am not sure people would accept.

My own preference is for something less ambitious to start with.

- Reduce red tape, caused by the EU, for companies that do not export.
- Give more power to National Assemblies and regional areas e.g. Northern Powerhouse
- Re-build our fishing fleet in conjunction with reviving our ailing seaside towns.
- Produce a plan for the countryside / farmers to replace the CAP.
- Reduce VAT (regressive tax) when it is affordable.
- Reimagine Corporate tax (Internet giants) and Business Rates to make both fairer.
- Simplify the tax system and reduce the amount of tax loopholes.
- Make the UK a great place for business to invest.

Nothing glamorous here but essentially an agenda to make the UK a fairer place to live.