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 Stirlingsays  14 Dec 21 12.45am |
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More powerful stuff from Neil Oliver, this time via Jimmy Dore.
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BlueJay  UK 14 Dec 21 1.09am |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
That's certainly a fair point.
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| Vaibow vancouver/croydon 14 Dec 21 3.36am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Even if that was a valid thing to do, and it isn't because as we all know there has been a NHS staffing issue for decades, do you REALLY think now is the time to do it. When your home is in danger of collapsing, you don't sit around and have a debate on whether the materials used were substandard. You use every tool at your disposal to try to stop it. If you think you know better on how to shore up staff numbers by using the military, then I am glad you aren't running the NHS. It doesn't surprise me, though, as you seem to think you know better on everything. Likewise, why nurses are now trained to degree level. Do you not understand that this is so they can do many of the things that doctors used to do? They aren't just carers and tea makers. Even the HCAs these days are skilled professionals. That you describe this as "ridiculous" just shows how out of your depth you are. That's why when a nurse speaks out, saying she is seeing more adverse reactions than cases of covid..... and cases of covid in the jabbed.... and that her colleagues spent the best part of 2020 making til tk dance routines, you listen.... End of the day, the vaccine is still in trials until 2023, then the data will be released, but not to the public, the FDA have a 75 year gag on it. Why? Also, this new variant, going through the vaccinated as if they were not vaccinated... and now a booster is the official accepted amount... for now.. if people cannot see where this is going... 2020 they had a Christmas party... they were not afraid of covid then..... even with the 'scary' data they had... yes, covid is real, yes this new vaccine may work for some..... but it's not one size fits all and there is def no need to mandate it, unless ofcourse, you want that product sold.
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| Vaibow vancouver/croydon 14 Dec 21 3.39am |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Being double vaccinated cut the mortality rate of Delta by 90%. Unfortunately a fair few people remain in that 10%, but it was still objectively completely the right thing to do to give your loved ones the best chance of fighting it off. Condolences that your mother in law didn't pull through, a great many vulnerable people are no doubt in the same position and it all becomes a bit of a hope for the best. Don't you get it? they all got jabbed, they all took the risk of a new 'vaccine' in hopes to saving their family... it failed them. the vaccine is not the answer, just look at Israel.
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| dreamwaverider London 14 Dec 21 6.25am |
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I’ll be surprised if we play Southampton on Wednesday.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 14 Dec 21 7.17am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
😊 You really don't get it, do you? It's pointless trying to point out realities when you regurgitate crap. And you really don’t like anyone with an alternative viewpoint to your own. You are like a religious zealot with your blinkered views. The only inference I made in what I said is that the government is using this to scare into vaccination and deflect from their own issues, the rest came from established medical reports, although I suppose i am expected to believe that the medical reports you read hold more water. Why should I?
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| Eaglecoops CR3 14 Dec 21 7.36am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
More powerful stuff from Neil Oliver, this time via Jimmy Dore.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Dec 21 7.45am |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
Thank you kindly. Yes, I suppose in a verbose way my central complaint isn't actually even that the unvaccinated are being discriminated against, it's that I believe that the narrative is giving false confidence to those who are jabbed which is potentially very dangerous in itself.
That said the 'false confidence' point is the more dangerous one. I made this point several times on here but all it got was silence and continual refocus upon vaccination. It's a reality that, while there is no argument from me against the elderly and vulnerable people taking vaccines (right from the start), the implication that the vulnerable are now safe to mix with other vaccinated people was never accurate. It's always been the reality that it comes down to where they are on the risk scale. When you read some posts, you see the need for certainties, that's what they want from their politician and 'experts'.....it's an obsession. It's a false god and we have never had it against airborne viruses. Some of the most vaccinated countries in the world have the worst outcomes, probably because social distancing goes down as a result. At some point we have to live with this and fund health services to fit that. But instead the messages coming from government and the media is more akin to 'The Andromeda Strain' movie. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2021 8.22am)
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 georgenorman 14 Dec 21 7.58am |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
I’ll be surprised if we play Southampton on Wednesday. Yes, we will probably all be dead by Wednesday or crammed into corridors and roof-space in NHS hospitals or in hospital tents on Selhurst Park pitch.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 14 Dec 21 8.04am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Yes, we will probably all be dead by Wednesday or crammed into corridors and roof-space in NHS hospitals or in hospital tents on Selhurst Park pitch. I’m pretty sure this is what the media would like us to believe.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Dec 21 8.06am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Yes, we will probably all be dead by Wednesday or crammed into corridors and roof-space in NHS hospitals or in hospital tents on Selhurst Park pitch. It's gonna be like a land based version of the Titanic. 'Paint me like you're doing one of your French girls'. Some of those paintings are going be hideous.
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| georgenorman 14 Dec 21 8.08am |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
I’m pretty sure this is what the media would like us to believe. It's certainly what the likes of Wisbelch and the other fanatics on here will have us believe. Edited by georgenorman (14 Dec 2021 8.08am)
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