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Mstrobez 05 Sep 18 7.55am | |
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Originally posted by Beastie
The trouble is people think they own their seats when they really don’t. The club have the option to change seating arrangements for many reasons. People are always going on about the HF thinking they’re better than other fans but the ones turning up like zombies because it’s a habit they’ve had for decades are the ones who seem to have a superiority complex. With assurances that they will have their seat replaced with a decent alternative, people should look to the greater good. I’ve had a ST in the lower Holmesdale since it opened. I’m nothing to do with the HF, I just want a ground with an atmosphere. I remember how bad it used to be. I keep hearing people bring this up. That argument only holds weight on a legal basis. It doesn’t all of a sudden make it right. If you can get Block E to all buy into the vision and willingly move of their own accord, then amazing. Let’s get it done ASAP. Stirring up a divisive frenzy & damaging the atmosphere you’re pitching in the first place, intentionally or not, because your’re not getting your way. I just can’t get behind it. Palace fans have been disillusioned for all sorts of reasons probably more times than they can count. Majority don’t seek to take their anger out on the club.
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Beastie 05 Sep 18 8.07am | |
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They just want like-minded people to be able to group together. It wouldn’t hurt anyone, it would be better for everyone. It would take some effort but I hope an agreement can be made.
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Username Horsham 05 Sep 18 8.13am | |
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Originally posted by Beastie
They just want like-minded people to be able to group together. It wouldn’t hurt anyone, it would be better for everyone. It would take some effort but I hope an agreement can be made. I don't think anyone here, or even at the club, disagrees with the idea. The problem is that right now (and back in March) it's almost impossible to do it properly, without massive disruption. I'm all for a singing section when we have a new main stand and people can move to other good seats and there is room to juggle things about. The club rightly pointed that out as the most obvious opportunity. I still haven't read anything from the HF that makes me think their action was anything other than selfish.
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becky over the moon 05 Sep 18 8.16am | |
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Originally posted by Beastie
The trouble is people think they own their seats when they really don’t. The club have the option to change seating arrangements for many reasons. People are always going on about the HF thinking they’re better than other fans but the ones turning up like zombies because it’s a habit they’ve had for decades are the ones who seem to have a superiority complex. With assurances that they will have their seat replaced with a decent alternative, people should look to the greater good. I’ve had a ST in the lower Holmesdale since it opened. I’m nothing to do with the HF, I just want a ground with an atmosphere. I remember how bad it used to be. ... or maybe it's just because they come to watch the football from a team they have supported all their lives, and don't feel the need to sing and dance about it.
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Painter Croydon 05 Sep 18 8.33am | |
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There are a lot of differing view on the HF and people are entitled to a view. It is clear the club is taking all the supporters into account, not everyone wants to stand, sing and wave a banner, nor should they be made to.
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Beastie 05 Sep 18 8.48am | |
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Originally posted by becky
... or maybe it's just because they come to watch the football from a team they have supported all their lives, and don't feel the need to sing and dance about it. Then it would be better if they were be grouped with people who feel the same. Everybody wins.
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PZ Eagle Penzance 05 Sep 18 8.50am | |
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Originally posted by becky
... or maybe it's just because they come to watch the football from a team they have supported all their lives, and don't feel the need to sing and dance about it. Well said becky! My grandfather played for Palace a couple of times as an amateur back in 1910, my mother and her brother supported them and then when my mother wed my father it became eight because my dad had five brothers and later most of the male in laws joined the throng. I joined them when I was taken to a game at six years old in 1946 and have loved and supported Crystal Palace ever since. And before any smart arse says I don't go to matches anymore because I relocated to Cornwall I was a season ticket holder, along with my dad and sister for more years than I can remember. I still watch every game that's streamed where I can and still after all these years get emotionally involved. It doesn't make me better fan than anyone else but that is what it is. In conclusion I am right behind the club in this sorry saga.The HF statement might be well written but they are only words. Their actions, however, in not carrying on are harming the club I love and are tantamount to blackmail to try and get their own way. So I would urge Mr Parrish to stand firm because once you've paid the Danegeld you never get rid of the Dane. By all means negotiate and try and resolve the situation amicably but NOT while the HF withdraw to try and force the issue.
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bicycle repair man 05 Sep 18 8.52am | |
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Originally posted by essetwentyone
Is this a joke? Just because they have written 3 pages of waffle these so called fanatics are going to dictate to a multi million pound business? Get real !!!! I agree wirh every word of this post.
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aquickgame2 Beni = summer,Caribbean = winter 05 Sep 18 8.55am | |
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Originally posted by Beastie
They just want like-minded people to be able to group together. It wouldn’t hurt anyone, it would be better for everyone. It would take some effort but I hope an agreement can be made. They were,it was called Block B
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Beastie 05 Sep 18 9.00am | |
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Originally posted by aquickgame2
They were,it was called Block B Believe it or not, there are more than 1-200 people in that ground who are interested in lifting the atmosphere.
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Eaglecoops CR3 05 Sep 18 9.01am | |
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Originally posted by PZ Eagle
Well said becky! My grandfather played for Palace a couple of times as an amateur back in 1910, my mother and her brother supported them and then when my mother wed my father it became eight because my dad had five brothers and later most of the male in laws joined the throng. I joined them when I was taken to a game at six years old in 1946 and have loved and supported Crystal Palace ever since. And before any smart arse says I don't go to matches anymore because I relocated to Cornwall I was a season ticket holder, along with my dad and sister for more years than I can remember. I still watch every game that's streamed where I can and still after all these years get emotionally involved. It doesn't make me better fan than anyone else but that is what it is. In conclusion I am right behind the club in this sorry saga.The HF statement might be well written but they are only words. Their actions, however, in not carrying on are harming the club I love and are tantamount to blackmail to try and get their own way. So I would urge Mr Parrish to stand firm because once you've paid the Danegeld you never get rid of the Dane. By all means negotiate and try and resolve the situation amicably but NOT while the HF withdraw to try and force the issue. What a great post. I don't have as many years in as you mate but I agree 100% with what you say. I believe this is how a lot of people at Palace feel as well.
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djp Sawston, Cambridge 05 Sep 18 9.40am | |
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For me if I was asked to move so the HF could take a position behind the goal I would do it as they are a tremendous asset to the Club at home and away games. All supporters are one may say but sometimes we all need to make small compromises for the sake of some cause or other. The HF, like the Crystals and the Eagle, when possible (!), are what fans like to see at Selhurst. Long may they all continue
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