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Stirlingsays Flag 09 Jul 19 11.17am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

These were your words taken from a comment in this thread a couple of days ago:-

"The reality is that the judiciary is full of middle class left wingers who look down at Robinson and are lock step with the government..."

An apology for suggesting I was inaccurate would be welcomed.

Well that isn't 'all' but that's a mistake on my part so apology provided.

I should have said neo liberals, which would be more accurate.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jul 2019 11.17am)

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 09 Jul 19 11.43am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

But the system did work! Evidence was presented, mistakes admitted and corrections made. That's the right way and it applies now just as it did then.

If there is any evidence of persecution etc, then present it. Just having a particular opinion doesn't count.

It’s a bit tricky summing up 16 years with a link but Chris Mullin wrote well about the case.
Unfortunately lacking intellectual rigour and objective certainty all I have is an opinion.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jul 19 11.45am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

According to our friend "Stirlingsays" the Judges all have a left wing mindset!

I think though that you are probably nearer the truth and raise some interesting points, although somewhat off topic.

Making the selection of Judges more transparent, inclusive and then accountable must be a good thing.

I cannot though see this being on the top of anyone's political agenda for a while yet!

People do not exist in a bubble. They are not machines.

They are susceptible to pressures via the associations they have, be they subtle or otherwise. As suggested, they are also selected originally because they tick the right boxes.


The ruling classes did not get there by being honest.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 09 Jul 19 11.51am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Wrong!

With "Robinson" out of the way the Police and the Courts could get on with their jobs without being concerned that a self opinionated, attention seeking rabble rouser might torpedo their work by offering guilty men an excuse to walk free.


But still be concerned about being called racist.
Never mind they were only little slappers who asked for it.
Whomever pressed on this would be hammered by the state.
It just happens to be someone who is deemed to be the enemy of the state.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 09 Jul 19 11.56am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

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If TR gets a fine.
How long before there are calls for an appeal as the sentence would be deemed not harsh enough by some.
Would a fine satisfy you wissy and you danh?
After all it will be a judges decision which we should all abide by!

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 09 Jul 19 12.28pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

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Originally posted by cryrst

If TR gets a fine.
How long before there are calls for an appeal as the sentence would be deemed not harsh enough by some.
Would a fine satisfy you wissy and you danh?
After all it will be a judges decision which we should all abide by!

A fine? He deserves a medal.

All these excuses in trousers aren't fit to call themselves Englishmen.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 09 Jul 19 12.41pm

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

A fine? He deserves a medal.

All these excuses in trousers aren't fit to call themselves Englishmen.

Correct. God save the Queen and f*** Isis

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 09 Jul 19 1.03pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

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Originally posted by ChrisGC

Correct. God save the Queen and f*** Isis

co f***ing rect

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Jul 19 2.12pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It’s a bit tricky summing up 16 years with a link but Chris Mullin wrote well about the case.
Unfortunately lacking intellectual rigour and objective certainty all I have is an opinion.

We all can have an opinion but the point is that no opinion amounts to evidence.

 


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elgrande Flag bedford 09 Jul 19 2.17pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Wrong!

With "Robinson" out of the way the Police and the Courts could get on with their jobs without being concerned that a self opinionated, attention seeking rabble rouser might torpedo their work by offering guilty men an excuse to walk free.

Ha ha,what like they have done for the last 15 years...
You are nothing more than an apologist for the grooming gangs.
You disgust me.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Jul 19 2.23pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

People do not exist in a bubble. They are not machines.

They are susceptible to pressures via the associations they have, be they subtle or otherwise. As suggested, they are also selected originally because they tick the right boxes.


The ruling classes did not get there by being honest.

That we all form our opinions from our experiences and our associations is true of course. Judges no doubt do too but the difference is that they have been trained to know how to set personal opinion aside and look at things through the objective lens of the law. If you have ever experienced the way a Judge can cut through the crap and get to the heart of an issue, as I have several times, as a plaintiff I hasten to add, then you won't have failed to be impressed.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Jul 19 2.34pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

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Originally posted by cryrst


But still be concerned about being called racist.

Whether or not "Robinson" is a racist is not an issue in this case.

Never mind they were only little slappers who asked for it.

That's very nasty suggestion that I have heard no-one, on here or elsewhere, actually make.

Whomever pressed on this would be hammered by the state.

The only ones "hammered" by the state are those who commit crimes.

It just happens to be someone who is deemed to be the enemy of the state.

"Robinson" has not been deemed "an enemy of the state" He is just a very naughty boy!

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Edited by Wisbech Eagle (09 Jul 2019 2.54pm)

 


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