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legaleagle 04 Aug 14 11.49pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Aug 2014 10.53pm Quote Seth at 04 Aug 2014 3.49pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Aug 2014 12.19pm I kind of understand the idea of people going off to fight Jyhad to 'liberate' muslim nations, such as Syria etc, but not really how blowing up a bus in London fits with any kind of strategy or goal. I believe it's about revenge, and bringing the war to our streets. The thinking goes, "you come to Muslim countries [Iraq, Afghan etc] and kill our civilians, so we're going to come to your country and kill your civilians, so you know what it's like for us." Edited by Seth (04 Aug 2014 3.49pm) Weirdly though Iraq was a remarkably secular country, with no love for Islamist movements, and a big hard on for quasi-leftist pan-Arabism. Somehow I see it more as exploited stupidity of a kind of middle class privileged Muslim guilt. Somehow I suspect many travelled out for training, were regarded as generally no use, and then sent back to 'strike a blow' in the UK (i.e. a liability to be disposed of). None of the cells seem to have been very well organised, resourced, well thought out or equipped. Interesting piece (c0-written from a former British jihadist) on why people go to fight in Syria [Link]
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04 Aug 14 11.49pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Aug 2014 10.53pm

Quote Seth at 04 Aug 2014 3.49pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Aug 2014 12.19pm

I kind of understand the idea of people going off to fight Jyhad to 'liberate' muslim nations, such as Syria etc, but not really how blowing up a bus in London fits with any kind of strategy or goal.

I believe it's about revenge, and bringing the war to our streets. The thinking goes, "you come to Muslim countries [Iraq, Afghan etc] and kill our civilians, so we're going to come to your country and kill your civilians, so you know what it's like for us."

Edited by Seth (04 Aug 2014 3.49pm)

Weirdly though Iraq was a remarkably secular country, with no love for Islamist movements, and a big hard on for quasi-leftist pan-Arabism.

Somehow I see it more as exploited stupidity of a kind of middle class privileged Muslim guilt. Somehow I suspect many travelled out for training, were regarded as generally no use, and then sent back to 'strike a blow' in the UK (i.e. a liability to be disposed of).

None of the cells seem to have been very well organised, resourced, well thought out or equipped.

Interesting piece (c0-written from a former British jihadist) on why people go to fight in Syria

[Link]

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Seth On a pale blue dot 05 Aug 14 1.12am
Quote matt_himself at 04 Aug 2014 7.47pm Quote Seth at 04 Aug 2014 3.49pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Aug 2014 12.19pm I kind of understand the idea of people going off to fight Jyhad to 'liberate' muslim nations, such as Syria etc, but not really how blowing up a bus in London fits with any kind of strategy or goal. I believe it's about revenge, and bringing the war to our streets. The thinking goes, "you come to Muslim countries [Iraq, Afghan etc] and kill our civilians, so we're going to come to your country and kill your civilians, so you know what it's like for us." Edited by Seth (04 Aug 2014 3.49pm) The people blowing up buses in London have never known life in a Muslim country. They were born and raised here. It defeats the argument. Those that are doing it are warped and egged on by spineless preachers who want the stupid and/or gullible to do their killing for them. I wasn't condoning, just explaining. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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On a pale blue dot 05 Aug 14 1.12am

Quote matt_himself at 04 Aug 2014 7.47pm

Quote Seth at 04 Aug 2014 3.49pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Aug 2014 12.19pm

I kind of understand the idea of people going off to fight Jyhad to 'liberate' muslim nations, such as Syria etc, but not really how blowing up a bus in London fits with any kind of strategy or goal.

Edited by Seth (04 Aug 2014 3.49pm)

The people blowing up buses in London have never known life in a Muslim country. They were born and raised here.

It defeats the argument. Those that are doing it are warped and egged on by spineless preachers who want the stupid and/or gullible to do their killing for them.

I wasn't condoning, just explaining.

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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Seth On a pale blue dot 05 Aug 14 1.17am
Quote matt_himself at 04 Aug 2014 7.54pm Quote Seth at 04 Aug 2014 7.43pm Quote Palacetinian at 04 Aug 2014 7.31pm In the Daily Mail too: [Link] What's even more depressing is that his statement has garnered over 8000 likes and almost 2500 shares on facebook. So it's not some wild, crackpot point of view in Israel, this guy is the deputy speaker of the Knesset ffs! This is mainstream opinion. And now you can bomb Gaza on your andriod device too, if watching the airstikes with drinks and snacks [Link] isn't enough any more: [Link] Exactly how sick can these fckers get? Keep up the self righteousness, Seth. It must be lovely for you and the rest of Lefty Mafia to have a circle jerk over these articles in the lefty press. As I said before, a lot of his is unpalatable to us but you and I have not spent our lives in Israel, not known the constant threat of rockets, kidnappings or suicide bombs. We haven't lived through the Intifada's. The kind of aggression dealt out to the ordinary people of Israel by Hamas is defining the action carried out by the IDF. It is very easy to criticise when you have not been subjected to life in war zone. Must be a great holiday you're having if you're still on here wnking over your keyboard. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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On a pale blue dot 05 Aug 14 1.17am

Quote matt_himself at 04 Aug 2014 7.54pm

Quote Seth at 04 Aug 2014 7.43pm

Quote Palacetinian at 04 Aug 2014 7.31pm

In the Daily Mail too: [Link]

What's even more depressing is that his statement has garnered over 8000 likes and almost 2500 shares on facebook. So it's not some wild, crackpot point of view in Israel, this guy is the deputy speaker of the Knesset ffs! This is mainstream opinion.

And now you can bomb Gaza on your andriod device too, if watching the airstikes with drinks and snacks [Link] isn't enough any more: [Link]

Exactly how sick can these f*ckers get?

Keep up the self righteousness, Seth. It must be lovely for you and the rest of Lefty Mafia to have a circle jerk over these articles in the lefty press.

As I said before, a lot of his is unpalatable to us but you and I have not spent our lives in Israel, not known the constant threat of rockets, kidnappings or suicide bombs. We haven't lived through the Intifada's. The kind of aggression dealt out to the ordinary people of Israel by Hamas is defining the action carried out by the IDF.

It is very easy to criticise when you have not been subjected to life in war zone.

Must be a great holiday you're having if you're still on here w*nking over your keyboard.

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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matt_himself Matataland 05 Aug 14 5.29am
Quote Seth at 05 Aug 2014 1.17am Quote matt_himself at 04 Aug 2014 7.54pm Quote Seth at 04 Aug 2014 7.43pm Quote Palacetinian at 04 Aug 2014 7.31pm In the Daily Mail too: [Link] What's even more depressing is that his statement has garnered over 8000 likes and almost 2500 shares on facebook. So it's not some wild, crackpot point of view in Israel, this guy is the deputy speaker of the Knesset ffs! This is mainstream opinion. And now you can bomb Gaza on your andriod device too, if watching the airstikes with drinks and snacks [Link] isn't enough any more: [Link] Exactly how sick can these fckers get? Keep up the self righteousness, Seth. It must be lovely for you and the rest of Lefty Mafia to have a circle jerk over these articles in the lefty press. As I said before, a lot of his is unpalatable to us but you and I have not spent our lives in Israel, not known the constant threat of rockets, kidnappings or suicide bombs. We haven't lived through the Intifada's. The kind of aggression dealt out to the ordinary people of Israel by Hamas is defining the action carried out by the IDF. It is very easy to criticise when you have not been subjected to life in war zone. Must be a great holiday you're having if you're still on here wnking over your keyboard. Dodge the issue you don't want to address Seth, just like the rest of the Lefty Mafia. Also, read posts properly. I said yesterday that I was off on holiday tomorrow. I haven't left yet. Anyway, I leave you to your continued circle jerk. I imagine in a weeks time there will 200 pages of 'sickening' stories from the Guardian and Independent posted on here. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 05 Aug 14 5.29am

Quote Seth at 05 Aug 2014 1.17am

Quote matt_himself at 04 Aug 2014 7.54pm

Quote Seth at 04 Aug 2014 7.43pm

Quote Palacetinian at 04 Aug 2014 7.31pm

In the Daily Mail too: [Link]

And now you can bomb Gaza on your andriod device too, if watching the airstikes with drinks and snacks [Link] isn't enough any more: [Link]

Exactly how sick can these f*ckers get?

Keep up the self righteousness, Seth. It must be lovely for you and the rest of Lefty Mafia to have a circle jerk over these articles in the lefty press.

It is very easy to criticise when you have not been subjected to life in war zone.

Must be a great holiday you're having if you're still on here w*nking over your keyboard.

Dodge the issue you don't want to address Seth, just like the rest of the Lefty Mafia.

Also, read posts properly. I said yesterday that I was off on holiday tomorrow. I haven't left yet.

Anyway, I leave you to your continued circle jerk. I imagine in a weeks time there will 200 pages of 'sickening' stories from the Guardian and Independent posted on here.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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DanH SW2 05 Aug 14 9.31am
matt_himself and gusset on holiday at the same time? Doesn't take a genius to work out what's going on there. Also, thank f*ck for that for the rest of us.
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DanH

SW2 05 Aug 14 9.31am

matt_himself and gusset on holiday at the same time? Doesn't take a genius to work out what's going on there.

Also, thank f*ck for that for the rest of us.

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 05 Aug 14 9.57am
Baronness Warsi has quit due to the governments policy on Gaza. I hadn't realised they had a policy! [Link] the dignified don't even enter in the game
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Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 05 Aug 14 9.57am

Baronness Warsi has quit due to the governments policy on Gaza. I hadn't realised they had a policy!

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the dignified don't even enter in the game

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npn Crowborough 05 Aug 14 10.10am
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 05 Aug 2014 9.57am Baronness Warsi has quit due to the governments policy on Gaza. I hadn't realised they had a policy! [Link] Always liked her - good for her putting what she thinks is right over her career. Something has to be done (the fact they are not even applying sanctions is shocking)
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Crowborough 05 Aug 14 10.10am

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 05 Aug 2014 9.57am

Baronness Warsi has quit due to the governments policy on Gaza. I hadn't realised they had a policy!

[Link]

Always liked her - good for her putting what she thinks is right over her career.

Something has to be done (the fact they are not even applying sanctions is shocking)

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Oliver Bodega Bay 05 Aug 14 11.16am
Quote DanH at 05 Aug 2014 9.31am matt_himself and gusset on holiday at the same time? Doesn't take a genius to work out what's going on there. Also, thank f*ck for that for the rest of us. I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.
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Oliver

Bodega Bay 05 Aug 14 11.16am

Quote DanH at 05 Aug 2014 9.31am

matt_himself and gusset on holiday at the same time? Doesn't take a genius to work out what's going on there.

Also, thank f*ck for that for the rest of us.

I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Aug 14 11.59am
Quote DanH at 05 Aug 2014 9.31am matt_himself and gusset on holiday at the same time? Doesn't take a genius to work out what's going on there. Also, thank f*ck for that for the rest of us. I'm still lurking
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 05 Aug 14 11.59am

Quote DanH at 05 Aug 2014 9.31am

matt_himself and gusset on holiday at the same time? Doesn't take a genius to work out what's going on there.

Also, thank f*ck for that for the rest of us.

I'm still lurking

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jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Aug 14 12.28pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 05 Aug 2014 9.57am Baronness Warsi has quit due to the governments policy on Gaza. I hadn't realised they had a policy! [Link] Isn't the policy to ask Israel to allow them to condemn them periodically and then knock 10% of the top of any arms deals to make up for saying bad things about them. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 05 Aug 14 12.28pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 05 Aug 2014 9.57am

Baronness Warsi has quit due to the governments policy on Gaza. I hadn't realised they had a policy!

[Link]

Isn't the policy to ask Israel to allow them to condemn them periodically and then knock 10% of the top of any arms deals to make up for saying bad things about them.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

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jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Aug 14 12.28pm
Quote DanH at 05 Aug 2014 9.31am matt_himself and gusset on holiday at the same time? Doesn't take a genius to work out what's going on there. Also, thank f*ck for that for the rest of us. The ultimate in angry sex. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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jamiemartin721

Reading 05 Aug 14 12.28pm

Quote DanH at 05 Aug 2014 9.31am

matt_himself and gusset on holiday at the same time? Doesn't take a genius to work out what's going on there.

Also, thank f*ck for that for the rest of us.

The ultimate in angry sex.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

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Seth On a pale blue dot 05 Aug 14 1.53pm
Quote matt_himself at 05 Aug 2014 5.29am Quote Seth at 05 Aug 2014 1.17am Quote matt_himself at 04 Aug 2014 7.54pm Quote Seth at 04 Aug 2014 7.43pm Quote Palacetinian at 04 Aug 2014 7.31pm In the Daily Mail too: [Link] What's even more depressing is that his statement has garnered over 8000 likes and almost 2500 shares on facebook. So it's not some wild, crackpot point of view in Israel, this guy is the deputy speaker of the Knesset ffs! This is mainstream opinion. And now you can bomb Gaza on your andriod device too, if watching the airstikes with drinks and snacks [Link] isn't enough any more: [Link] Exactly how sick can these fckers get? Keep up the self righteousness, Seth. It must be lovely for you and the rest of Lefty Mafia to have a circle jerk over these articles in the lefty press. As I said before, a lot of his is unpalatable to us but you and I have not spent our lives in Israel, not known the constant threat of rockets, kidnappings or suicide bombs. We haven't lived through the Intifada's. The kind of aggression dealt out to the ordinary people of Israel by Hamas is defining the action carried out by the IDF. It is very easy to criticise when you have not been subjected to life in war zone. Must be a great holiday you're having if you're still on here wnking over your keyboard. Dodge the issue you don't want to address Seth, just like the rest of the Lefty Mafia. Also, read posts properly. I said yesterday that I was off on holiday tomorrow. I haven't left yet. Anyway, I leave you to your continued circle jerk. I imagine in a weeks time there will 200 pages of 'sickening' stories from the Guardian and Independent posted on here. Once again you have mistaken me for someone who gives a microscopic iota of sh*t about any aspect of the putrid torrent of diarrhoea which leaks from your mind, through your spittle-flecked keyboard and onto these boards. I would wish you a happy and healthy jaunt but am unable to. Instead I am overwhelmed with sympathy and pity for those poor benighted souls who are unfortunate enough to be sharing whatever blighted destination you have chosen for your outing. Please, please don't hurry back. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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Seth

On a pale blue dot 05 Aug 14 1.53pm

Quote matt_himself at 05 Aug 2014 5.29am

Quote Seth at 05 Aug 2014 1.17am

Quote matt_himself at 04 Aug 2014 7.54pm

Quote Seth at 04 Aug 2014 7.43pm

Quote Palacetinian at 04 Aug 2014 7.31pm

In the Daily Mail too: [Link]

And now you can bomb Gaza on your andriod device too, if watching the airstikes with drinks and snacks [Link] isn't enough any more: [Link]

Exactly how sick can these f*ckers get?

Keep up the self righteousness, Seth. It must be lovely for you and the rest of Lefty Mafia to have a circle jerk over these articles in the lefty press.

It is very easy to criticise when you have not been subjected to life in war zone.

Must be a great holiday you're having if you're still on here w*nking over your keyboard.

Dodge the issue you don't want to address Seth, just like the rest of the Lefty Mafia.

Also, read posts properly. I said yesterday that I was off on holiday tomorrow. I haven't left yet.

Anyway, I leave you to your continued circle jerk. I imagine in a weeks time there will 200 pages of 'sickening' stories from the Guardian and Independent posted on here.

Once again you have mistaken me for someone who gives a microscopic iota of sh*t about any aspect of the putrid torrent of diarrhoea which leaks from your mind, through your spittle-flecked keyboard and onto these boards.

I would wish you a happy and healthy jaunt but am unable to. Instead I am overwhelmed with sympathy and pity for those poor benighted souls who are unfortunate enough to be sharing whatever blighted destination you have chosen for your outing.

Please, please don't hurry back.

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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