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 Penge Eagle  Beckenham 01 Nov 18 9.59pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
What makes me laugh is Brexiteers don't see the irony, as was trying explain above, the so called 'not being ruled by Brussels line' and UK democracy they so cherish means handing sole power to the Osbournes, Mays, Johnson's et al. They see the total farce and pigs ear our political elite have made of Brexit yet still fight their corner ! As if our politicians are whiter than white and supremely competent ! How much more evidence is needed to prove our political establishment is not fit for purpose and couldn't run a tupperware party ? Yet they still remain stubborn to the end! I am for limited government because I don't particularly trust it. The current lot are doing a bad job so I have the choice to not vote for them. I don;t get your point? The alternative is anarchy – is that what you want instead?
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| Stirlingsays 01 Nov 18 10.33pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
If Corbyn had put his back into it we wouldn’t be in this mess and I wouldn’t be surrounded by angry people everywhere I go. Young people and Londoners have a lot to lose. Different perspectives. My generation lost a lot by being forced to remain in the EU through several agreements that gave away parliamentary control....which had scant licence from the population. As for Corbyn.....he's proved himself one of the biggest anti EU politicians of the last twenty years. It seems you wanted him to represent your principles and not his own.....Labour had him lying about what he wanted yet you wanted more. Boo hoo. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Nov 2018 10.37pm)
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| .TUX. 02 Nov 18 5.55am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
If Corbyn had put his back into it we wouldn’t be in this mess and I wouldn’t be surrounded by angry people everywhere I go. Young people and Londoners have a lot to lose. It's crystal clear that they've been losing for the past 20yrs or so.
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| dannyboy1978 02 Nov 18 6.14am |
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What does the Commission do?Proposes new laws The Commission is the sole EU institution tabling laws for adoption by the Parliament and the Council that: protect the interests of the EU and its citizens on issues that can't be dealt with effectively at national level;get technical details right by consulting experts and the public. That sounds more like interference! Edited by dannyboy1978 (02 Nov 2018 6.17am)
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Pussay Patrol  02 Nov 18 9.20am |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
I am for limited government because I don't particularly trust it. The current lot are doing a bad job so I have the choice to not vote for them. I don;t get your point? The alternative is anarchy – is that what you want instead? We already have anarchy, because of Brexit The point I am making is about democracy. We all agree about the incompetence of those that lead us, like Cucking called them - f*ckwits. Are these the sort of people you would actually want to run the country? You want less government, you don't trust them, they're doing a bad job yet you would have them at the steering wheel rather than the EU That's not democracy that's Nationalism
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 Hrolf The Ganger 02 Nov 18 9.59am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
We already have anarchy, because of Brexit The point I am making is about democracy. We all agree about the incompetence of those that lead us, like Cucking called them - f*ckwits. Are these the sort of people you would actually want to run the country? You want less government, you don't trust them, they're doing a bad job yet you would have them at the steering wheel rather than the EU That's not democracy that's Nationalism What is a democracy? As a country and an island, our interests do not always align with those of our European friends. Where does Britain stand in a federal Europe?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 02 Nov 18 10.51am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What is a democracy? As a country and an island, our interests do not always align with those of our European friends. Where does Britain stand in a federal Europe? Agreed. I keep asking this question. What will the EU look like if we remain in say 5-10 years. Are we going to be forced to join the euro? does our rebate go? will we be forced into an EU defence force? Will the EU have final say on our budget and fiscal policy? (just ask Italy)will we be forced into the Schengen agreement? I don't hear any of that from the Remainers yet all of this is on the table and its not project fear just look at the EU website. The status quo is not an option well I voted for change outside of the EU. Maybe in some alternate reality the EU will get it's act together and become a democratic confederation of independent nations until then I want nothing to do with it. Oh as for all those who are taking out Irish or German citizenship don't let the door hit your bum, on the way out.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 02 Nov 18 10.53am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
i thought I would post this before the Remainers pile in. Aaron banks is to be investigated over the source of funds he provided for the unofficial leave campaign. Now claimed Mrs May personally stepped in to block a police and security services investigation into Banks and his sources of money before the vote took place - source of all people The Mail. Had a sneaky feeling about this one.....
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| Badger11 Beckenham 02 Nov 18 10.56am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Now claimed Mrs May personally stepped in to block a police and security services investigation into Banks and his sources of money before the vote took place - source of all people The Mail. Had a sneaky feeling about this one..... Odd considering she is a Remainer I would have thought she would have wanted an investigation.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 02 Nov 18 11.24am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Agreed. I keep asking this question. What will the EU look like if we remain in say 5-10 years. Are we going to be forced to join the euro? does our rebate go? will we be forced into an EU defence force? Will the EU have final say on our budget and fiscal policy? (just ask Italy)will we be forced into the Schengen agreement? I don't hear any of that from the Remainers yet all of this is on the table and its not project fear just look at the EU website. The status quo is not an option well I voted for change outside of the EU. Maybe in some alternate reality the EU will get it's act together and become a democratic confederation of independent nations until then I want nothing to do with it. Oh as for all those who are taking out Irish or German citizenship don't let the door hit your bum, on the way out.
Again you are EU obsessed, that is for them what direction they take without us. No point in continuing the EU blame game. In spite of what you say you are really keeping it alive, aren't you ???????
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| Badger11 Beckenham 02 Nov 18 11.50am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Again you are EU obsessed, that is for them what direction they take without us. No point in continuing the EU blame game. In spite of what you say you are really keeping it alive, aren't you ???????
Not obsessed and yes you are correct it is up to them. I am simply pointing out that those who argue for another referendum fail to mention this. The choice was never between change or no change. As for keeping it all well isn't this the Brexit thread?
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 02 Nov 18 12.11pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
We already have anarchy, because of Brexit The point I am making is about democracy. We all agree about the incompetence of those that lead us, like Cucking called them - f*ckwits. Are these the sort of people you would actually want to run the country? You want less government, you don't trust them, they're doing a bad job yet you would have them at the steering wheel rather than the EU That's not democracy that's Nationalism Nationalism?? Now you've lost me. We do not have anarchy, as in the actual definition! You really need to understand the correct meanings. You don't get my point. Big government is bad – so why would I want more? (as in the EU). If a real conservative became leader then I would vote of for them and expect them to cut back the government and taxes. It's really not hard to understand.
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