Don't be silly! I don't read, let alone subscribe to such systems.

It comes out of my own thinking!

Unlike most of yours, which seem to originate in Moscow and arrive via YouTube.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (12 Dec 2021 8.52pm)

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I have no idea why you make that assertion, or how you reach it.

It's not the point, though. The current death rate is low, because of the vaccinations and mask wearing etc. The restrictions now being imposed are to try to flatten out, as much as possible, the expected surge in hospitalisations, which could easily overwhelm the NHS's capacity to deal with them, thus resulting in avoidable deaths. Additionally, there is likely to have to be another pause in elective surgery, to free up capacity and staff.

It's all very regrettable, but it's the least worst option.

Once over, we need to focus on getting the developing world vaccinated, because that's where the variants will mutate and extend the pandemic. Convincing those people that the vaccines are safe and necessary isn't helped by people in the developed world spreading misinformation.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I think they want to focus upon the unvaccinated when the real focus should be on NHS staffing levels and how they have mishandled them.

Less people in hospital than there were in October....there has been a severe lack of governmental and institutional flexibility. If it's a matter of equipment or beds, which I doubt, we have shown the capacity to quickly respond to that....if it's numbers of staff we have both ex staff and army medical core that can be reallocated, plus we have had a lot of time for specific training rather than the ridiculous 'degree' requirement for nurses.

It all seems to be handled pretty poorly.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

You could... chances are you won't.

You could, however, stop drinking alcohol, eating sugar, fast food, you could be way more healthy...we all could... that would drastically reduce the amount of patience waiting to be seen..

You don't get it do you? The health care system is at breaking point every winter, why?? no investment... poor lifestyle choices, government decisions that hinder a healthy life.

There are those that want to be spoon fed by the government, they want their hand held... I get that.. there are those addicted to the fear p***... I get that..

But when those in power, tell us to stay in, for fear of a virus that will ruin society.... as they themselves party... not afraid to catch it..
you know you been played.

This was once a quality forum....

Fully agree.

The idea that because you choose to not take a vaccine you are suddenly demonised is really a little concerning. I've never criticised people (only coercion...especially of the young) for choosing to take a vaccine because free choice has been a fundamental part of being English for centuries now. Instead, the speed at which people can turn speaks to what fear and its mongering can do when it's directed. You'd like it if some could pull their punches a bit with the language and that's not me saying they should change their opinion.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Dec 2021 4.50pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

This was once a quality forum....