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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 02 Aug 18 11.02am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Social diversity does not mean any disapproval of integration. It means people can integrate as much as they wish to and at a pace which is comfortable and sustainable. To suggest that "Robinson" does not approve of extremes is risible when his platform is extremist, and everything in his past confirms that. I have nothing in common with him.
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| Stirlingsays 02 Aug 18 11.21am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Social diversity does not mean any disapproval of integration. It means people can integrate as much as they wish to and at a pace which is comfortable and sustainable. To suggest that "Robinson" does not approve of extremes is risible when his platform is extremist, and everything in his past confirms that. I have nothing in common with him.
TRURO......Cornwell. A population which is near 100 percent white.....A population which has almost no diversity. If you had these views on social diversity why why why didn't you move to a place with high diversity. This is a finding that I see is pretty common with those who claim to love diversity. At the end of the day, if they have the means, they settle away from it. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2018 11.43am)
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| dannyboy1978 02 Aug 18 11.54am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Social diversity does not mean any disapproval of integration. It means people can integrate as much as they wish to and at a pace which is comfortable and sustainable. To suggest that "Robinson" does not approve of extremes is risible when his platform is extremist, and everything in his past confirms that. I have nothing in common with him. No one nore TR is unhappy with integration, it is the failure of certain communities to integrate in to Britain. David Cameron even highlighted this as a problem!! is he a racist also?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Aug 18 11.55am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
TRURO......Cornwell. A population which is near 100 percent white.....A population which has almost no diversity. If you had these views on social diversity why why why didn't you move to a place with high diversity. This is a finding that I see is pretty common with those who claim to love diversity. At the end of the day, if they have the means, they settle away from it. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2018 11.43am) You might be very surprised at just how out of date that information is. Yes I lived in Wisbech for over 10 years and owned a business there. I retired to Cornwall because I have connections here and love the countryside and climate. There is a mosque less than 2 miles from my home and many new British people, from a variety of places, living in the locality and also visiting as tourists. Last week I had a Slovakian family staying with us and this week one from Poland. Wisbech had a higher proportion of eastern Europeans it's true, but there are many here too. My wife's best friend is from Romania.
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| Stirlingsays 02 Aug 18 12.00pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You might be very surprised at just how out of date that information is. Yes I lived in Wisbech for over 10 years and owned a business there. I retired to Cornwall because I have connections here and love the countryside and climate. There is a mosque less than 2 miles from my home and many new British people, from a variety of places, living in the locality and also visiting as tourists. Last week I had a Slovakian family staying with us and this week one from Poland. Wisbech had a higher proportion of eastern Europeans it's true, but there are many here too. My wife's best friend is from Romania. The 2011 census shows that Cornwell is over 95 percent white. In life I've learnt the hard way to never take what people say on face value. Always look at what they do. You stated you love 'social diversity' and you live in one of the least diverse places in England. Actions speak louder than words.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Aug 18 12.53pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
No one nore TR is unhappy with integration, it is the failure of certain communities to integrate in to Britain. David Cameron even highlighted this as a problem!! is he a racist also? "Robinson", and those who think like him, don't want integration. They want submersion. Integration means absorbing a culture and integrating it into another. We have achieved this many times in the past and will do again, given time and patience. The second and third generations will gradually show greater levels of those traits we associate with being British. Excepting the small numbers of those who have been radicalised. What "Robinson" and his ilk do is drive more towards the radical elements by their divisiveness.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Aug 18 1.00pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The 2011 census shows that Cornwell is over 95 percent white. In life I've learnt the hard way to never take what people say on face value. Always look at what they do. You stated you love 'social diversity' and you live in one of the least diverse places in England. Actions speak louder than words. I have already explained, although there was really no need to, why I chose to live where I do. Before Wisbech I lived in High Wycombe, which is also quite a diverse place. I don't choose where I live because of, or in spite of, it's diversity. It is an irrelevancy. Diversity, as you ought to know, has no direct connection to whether a population is "white" or not. That you even mention "whiteness" is quite revealing in this context.
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| Ulysses 02 Aug 18 1.02pm |
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Perhaps Robinson needs to be a little clearer on what his vision of integration looks like. If he is so worried about the lack of integration from the Muslim community, you'd think that when someone fully demonstrates integration by, say, becoming mayor of London, he'd be pleased about it. Nah. Instead he rants about London not being Tooting-born Khan's country or capital city, that he's part of an "invasion" into "our" country, spreading propaganda about his wife... Not too much integration, please. Know your place and all that.
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| Stirlingsays 02 Aug 18 1.04pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have already explained, although there was really no need to, why I chose to live where I do. Before Wisbech I lived in High Wycombe, which is also quite a diverse place. I don't choose where I live because of, or in spite of, it's diversity. It is an irrelevancy. Diversity, as you ought to know, has no direct connection to whether a population is "white" or not. That you even mention "whiteness" is quite revealing in this context. It's the context that those who seek greater diversity speak in themselves. You don't have to be white to consider yourself English, however the census reveals the fact that few non whites describe themselves as such. You slag off Robinson from your near exclusively white area while he lives in a highly diverse one. If you love diversity you should be living in it, not preaching at others to do what you aren't doing.
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| Stirlingsays 02 Aug 18 1.14pm |
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Originally posted by Ulysses
Perhaps Robinson needs to be a little clearer on what his vision of integration looks like. If he is so worried about the lack of integration from the Muslim community, you'd think that when someone fully demonstrates integration by, say, becoming mayor of London, he'd be pleased about it. Nah. Instead he rants about London not being Tooting-born Khan's country or capital city, that he's part of an "invasion" into "our" country, spreading propaganda about his wife... Not too much integration, please. Know your place and all that. He's made his views quite clear. You can find all of it out by viewing his interviews on his Youtube channel....and get it from the horse's mouth instead of the lies from the UK media. He views Islam as incompatible with western values. He doesn't view integration as possible from what he sees around the world and here. I view reformist Islam, certain sects and secular Islam as compatible but these are tiny groups within the religion.
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| Mapletree Croydon 02 Aug 18 1.18pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's the context that those who seek greater diversity speak in themselves. You don't have to be white to consider yourself English, however the census reveals the fact that few non whites describe themselves as such. You slag off Robinson from your near exclusively white area while he lives in a highly diverse one. If you love diversity you should be living in it, not preaching at others to do what you aren't doing.
This is so funny There are a few people on the HOL who are so fascinated by immigration that it seems to be 95% of what they think about on an hourly basus I know that some people have moved out from locations due to social changes linked to immigration. If the areas were truly becoming unlivable then I have sympathy. But most people do not base where they are going to live on diversity of the population. I will caveat that by saying my children are avoiding certain areas due to a lack of diversity, it is simply very boring. I believe there is a big difference between generations on this point, albeit I am the same and hate only working with one nationality or ethnic group. If you want to know how diverse it is around Truro I suggest you look up Cornwall. Cornwell isn't particularly diverse, that part of Oxfordshire is too expensive for most incomers and it is a very small community in Cornwell. I object to Stephen Yaxley-Lennon styling himself as Tommy by the way. My father was a Tommy, he didn't fight for justice across Europe and Africa for Mr Yaxley-Lennon's views to prevail, that is very clear. Edited by Mapletree (02 Aug 2018 1.19pm)
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 02 Aug 18 1.22pm |
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Originally posted by Ulysses
Perhaps Robinson needs to be a little clearer on what his vision of integration looks like. If he is so worried about the lack of integration from the Muslim community, you'd think that when someone fully demonstrates integration by, say, becoming mayor of London, he'd be pleased about it. Nah. Instead he rants about London not being Tooting-born Khan's country or capital city, that he's part of an "invasion" into "our" country, spreading propaganda about his wife... Not too much integration, please. Know your place and all that. You think having Khan as Mayor means we have full integration? There is a problem with integration and social cohesion in the UK, which the Casey report showed quite clearly. The government has done nothing since [Link] What results from this government apathy? The likes of Tommy Robinson filling the void.
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