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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Dec 21 8.08pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Rather than continually response to WE's BS I'd say to anyone who actually takes what this guys says on this matter...on the benefits of editors and lawyers to watch this video.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 21 8.09pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Blimey..Really? What utter tripe.....you're so full of the brown stuff..that the number of corks up your arse could refloat the Titanic.

Off you go then. The QE is only 30 minutes away. You can find some of the senior management there and ask them.

I read most of the stuff being given to my wife. She is frequently being trained in these matters.

On top of that, one of my best friends, with whom I will be playing bowls tomorrow morning, is a NHS investigation officer whose job it is to investigate claims of every sort, and support those who make them. I will discuss this with him tomorrow.

As usual, when faced with hard evidence which doesn't fit your prejudices, you revert to personal insults as your answer.

Now, how do you think that makes you look?

Paragon of wisdom? Or arse*hole? Answers on a postcard, please, preferably posted anywhere but here.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 21 8.17pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Rather than continually response to WE's BS I'd say to anyone who actually takes what this guys says on this matter...on the benefits of editors and lawyers to watch this video.

[Link]

Thanks for the laugh. Do watch it.

It supports exactly what I say about the "alt-media". A self-important, self-opinionated guy gets onto YouTube and rants about the MSM.

Should he be taken seriously? Not by me. Other opinions are available. Unfortunately.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 11 Dec 21 8.48pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Thanks for the laugh. Do watch it.

It supports exactly what I say about the "alt-media". A self-important, self-opinionated guy gets onto YouTube and rants about the MSM.

Should he be taken seriously? Not by me. Other opinions are available. Unfortunately.

You almost have to admire the confidence with which he posts these things like they settle an argument. Every video is so eye opening into that community. It’s just disaffected dudes who feel like they don’t fit in so think the whole world must be rigged against them isn’t it?

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 21 8.53pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

You almost have to admire the confidence with which he posts these things like they settle an argument. Every video is so eye opening into that community. It’s just disaffected dudes who feel like they don’t fit in so think the whole world must be rigged against them isn’t it?

I couldn't tell if this one has a weedy, straggly beard and staring eyes, though. I wonder if it was chosen to avoid that?

Mind you, the voice is a bit of a giveaway.

 


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Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 11 Dec 21 9.33pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Hypocrisy on fire!

It's those who think like this who are self-righteous.

I don't think there is any prospect at all of vaccination becoming mandatory. It would be impractical to administer and be counter-productive in that it would turn those now regarded as selfish into martyrs. Exclusion is the way forward.

If society bans you from harming yourself, and threatening everyone else, by making the personal use of some drugs illegal, is it not logical that it should expect you to join in when a safe drug has been shown to benefit you, and everyone else?

If you take illegal drugs, there are consequences. So if you refuse the safe ones, it surely follows that there also ought to be consequences.

This isn't then about you being unable to decide what goes into your body. You can take an illegal drug if you wish, but expect to be punished, or rehabilitated if caught. Refuse the vaccine, and you shouldn't expect to be able to mix with the vaccinated.

That's life in a democracy.

In Canada you can not use public transport, i.e ferries, planes and trains if you do not have a passport proving you had the jab. That means getting to work, seeing relatives, leaving the country if unjabbed impossible.

You cannot go into restaurants, cinema's, gyms, theatres, visit patients in hospitals, churches if you do not have a passport.

Meaning you cannot socialize.

You can not go to some universities, schools, if unjabbed - you cannot study.

You cannot work for the public sector, if unjabbed. Means no money.

You cannot rent homes from some companies, if unjabbed. Meaning no accommodation.

All this, not because the government mandated it all, but gave cash incentives to those companies that did. Companies that have no cash left took it.

So, whilst a western world government does not have to mandate it, it can feed it's population to the wolves and get them fighting over scraps.

All this happened over 8 months.

It's coming to the uk and you should be very afraid.

Those saying vaccines are seasonal - yeah, they are, but never have mRNA vaccines been seasonal, or even approved in such a way, with long term evidence. THEY ARE STILL IN TRIAL until 2023 and when those trials are over, the FDA have a 75 year release clause... why would a safe product need that?

And sure, make the jab seasonal, for those that want it... not based upon a QR code that stops perfectly healthy people from living their lives, all because some bloke doesn't trust the vaccine he has taken.

I am pro vaccine, I believe the vaccine YOU took WORKS, otherwise what's the point?
a lot of jabbed people seem like anti vaxxers.. in the sense they don't trust the science of their own jab that is now forever in their body.

World has gone f***ing nuts - absolutely bats*** crazy... and people are doubling down hard not he mistake they made.

The vaccines made billions of profits - during a pandemic. that to me is disgusting. Sure, pay every wage of those involved, they are front line workers, but to allow share holders create billions.... who then lobby... nah, not for me and it's embarrassing listening to you all defend this Nazi bulls***.

Here's an idea, instead of being stubborn and trying to defend yourself, just keep quiet.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 21 10.12pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

In Canada you can not use public transport, i.e ferries, planes and trains if you do not have a passport proving you had the jab. That means getting to work, seeing relatives, leaving the country if unjabbed impossible.

You cannot go into restaurants, cinema's, gyms, theatres, visit patients in hospitals, churches if you do not have a passport.

Meaning you cannot socialize.

You can not go to some universities, schools, if unjabbed - you cannot study.

You cannot work for the public sector, if unjabbed. Means no money.

You cannot rent homes from some companies, if unjabbed. Meaning no accommodation.

All this, not because the government mandated it all, but gave cash incentives to those companies that did. Companies that have no cash left took it.

So, whilst a western world government does not have to mandate it, it can feed it's population to the wolves and get them fighting over scraps.

All this happened over 8 months.

It's coming to the uk and you should be very afraid.

Those saying vaccines are seasonal - yeah, they are, but never have mRNA vaccines been seasonal, or even approved in such a way, with long term evidence. THEY ARE STILL IN TRIAL until 2023 and when those trials are over, the FDA have a 75 year release clause... why would a safe product need that?

And sure, make the jab seasonal, for those that want it... not based upon a QR code that stops perfectly healthy people from living their lives, all because some bloke doesn't trust the vaccine he has taken.

I am pro vaccine, I believe the vaccine YOU took WORKS, otherwise what's the point?
a lot of jabbed people seem like anti vaxxers.. in the sense they don't trust the science of their own jab that is now forever in their body.

World has gone f***ing nuts - absolutely bats*** crazy... and people are doubling down hard not he mistake they made.

The vaccines made billions of profits - during a pandemic. that to me is disgusting. Sure, pay every wage of those involved, they are front line workers, but to allow share holders create billions.... who then lobby... nah, not for me and it's embarrassing listening to you all defend this Nazi bulls***.

Here's an idea, instead of being stubborn and trying to defend yourself, just keep quiet.

No we shouldn't. We should welcome it with open arms.

The unvaccinated have a very simple answer in their own hands. Or more accurately, in their own arms.

These vaccines were known to be safe even before they were released, because the scientific basis for that was well established. That didn't stop trials being run, primarily to reassure people, not because of any doubt. The Australian showed a rare side effect and was withdrawn. The AZ has an even rarer side effect and has not been given to children. Now we have huge amounts of real time experience that they are very safe and only producing the kind of rare side effects that all drugs do. When the benefits outweigh the negatives by such enormous factors, then deciding to use them is a no brainer.

We aren't "stopping perfectly healthy people from living their lives"! We are trying to make sure that all the people CAN live their lives, and expecting them to participate in the vaccine programme is their contribution to our collective effort. It's not much to ask, is it?

If some refuse, then there will be a cost. Both to protect the rest of us and the NHS and to exert pressure on them to join in.

The purpose isn't to punish anyone. It is to encourage vaccination and, if that fails, coerce them into doing so.

Vaccine producers have acted pretty responsibly in my view. AZ are supplying the developing world at cost. The others worked incredibly hard and fast. Of course, they will earn money. That is the nature of commerce, and acting fast and being first is a benefit to everyone. So the next time this happens they have the incentives, and investments, in place to be ready to respond quickly and save your life.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 21 10.47pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

I urge everyone, whatever your personal stance is on vaccination and the possibility of vaccine mandates, to watch this video from Ros Atkins, who is a serious and thoughtful journalist. No sensationalism in this piece. No YouTube histrionics. Just solid reporting, presenting facts and asking questions. That he happens to come from Truro can either be welcomed, or disregarded!

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eaglesdare Flag 11 Dec 21 10.55pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Its the first time in history that the ineffectiveness of a medicine is being blamed on those who have not taken it!

In Ireland 96 percent of over 18s are fully jabbed and it's pretty much lockdown over there! Even with your vaccine you are in for a lifetime of restrictions and lockdown! So good luck to you! :-)

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Dec 21 11.33pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I couldn't tell if this one has a weedy, straggly beard and staring eyes, though. I wonder if it was chosen to avoid that?

Mind you, the voice is a bit of a giveaway.

It's amusing that you pursue this angle when posting to Dan....someone who literally turned down an arm wrestle.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Dec 21 11.37pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

You almost have to admire the confidence with which he posts these things like they settle an argument. Every video is so eye opening into that community. It’s just disaffected dudes who feel like they don’t fit in so think the whole world must be rigged against them isn’t it?

You and your stereotypes.....here's one back.

Gateway to the far left - disliking your father.
Gateway to the right - becoming a father.

That's what also happened in 2016 by the way.....so perhaps there still hope for you yet.

Anyway I'm bored wiping the floor with you two.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 12 Dec 21 1.13am Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

'Scientists' who are among those advising the government on Covid have just announced that we could expect 75,000 deaths by April from the omicron variant in England alone and 2,400 hospital admissions a day.
Yesterday, the World Health Organisation confrimed that there have been zero deaths from the omicron variant worldwide. Recently, the NHS reported that there had been zero hospital admissions in the UK of people with the minicron variant.

Edited by georgenorman (11 Dec 2021 2.40pm)

Classic cherrypicking here

As has been stated on multiple news outlets - the 74,900 is, and I quote, ‘But infectious diseases expert Prof Paul Hunter said he suspected the most pessimistic scenarios are unlikely’

As always, regardless of side, someone again framing selective quotes/content to suit their argument. In this case attempting to scaremonger amongst likeminded anti authoritarians. Grow up. The other side you forgot to mention is 25,000, and more importantly, completely manageable. No scare tactics, no histrionics. But that doesn’t suit your narrative so you chose not to mention it. Partisan tripe.

The SA curve is flattening, my personal opinion based on OBJECTIVE sources is that we will be fine, but there is going to be a spike and it will be in Jan, and it will require some additional measures.

Personally I think boris is so f***ed now he’s trying to hold off until the 27th - let people have Christmas then f*** over new year, wait four weeks for the hospitalisations to plateau (and based on SA they will, fast) and then wind back on Feb. From then on, it’s sail off into the sunset.

Let’s have some objective optimism on here rather than constant navel gazing squalor.

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