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 PalazioVecchio  south pole 28 Sep 21 8.43pm |
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fancy a criminal record ? for refusing to pay for a channel ? a channel you dislike ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (28 Sep 2021 8.47pm)
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DanH  SW2 28 Sep 21 8.43pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Have you then? No? I live in the U.K. I don’t feel particularly ‘conquered’ because I have to pay about 40p a day to watch the telly. Maybe he should try Kabul for a comparison and see where he feels more conquered.
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| DanH SW2 28 Sep 21 8.44pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
fancy a criminal record for refusing to pay for a channel you dislike ? No one is forcing you to pay it. Just don’t watch or listen to anything the licence fee covers. It’s really not difficult.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 28 Sep 21 8.55pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
No one is forcing you to pay it. Just don’t watch or listen to anything the licence fee covers. It’s really not difficult. its like charging me to manufacture eggs even though i never eat the feckers. Just cos i got a frying pan, its all my financial obligation. daylight robbery. Egg yolks are yellow. Funnily enough.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 28 Sep 21 9.22pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Twenty years ago perhaps there was a chance, I know there were internal voices near the top about widening out cultural view diversity at the BBC but they rejected the opportunity. I was thinking about the BBC scaling back and thus reducing the licence fee, most people would be happy with that. You only have to compare the size and reach of the BBC in the 1970's to today to see what I mean. Their local news and also local radio services has killed off any other competition and they have a huge internet service. Personally I want to abolish the licence but one solution would be BBC basic package (covered by the licence fee) e.g. BBC1 and 2 plus some radio stations. BBC plus would be anything else paid by subscription or advertising. Edited by Badger11 (28 Sep 2021 9.23pm)
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| Stirlingsays 28 Sep 21 9.55pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I was thinking about the BBC scaling back and thus reducing the licence fee, most people would be happy with that. You only have to compare the size and reach of the BBC in the 1970's to today to see what I mean. Their local news and also local radio services has killed off any other competition and they have a huge internet service. Personally I want to abolish the licence but one solution would be BBC basic package (covered by the licence fee) e.g. BBC1 and 2 plus some radio stations. BBC plus would be anything else paid by subscription or advertising. Edited by Badger11 (28 Sep 2021 9.23pm) Sounds sensible to me. People paying for the services they want to use seems far more inline with the modern day. There could be a protected package but for me it would have to be non political and so would involve a lot of negotiation. I don't know what the world service is like today but when I was young I remember it being something to be proud of.....probably woke now.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Sep 21 11.49pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Sounds sensible to me. People paying for the services they want to use seems far more inline with the modern day. There could be a protected package but for me it would have to be non political and so would involve a lot of negotiation. I don't know what the world service is like today but when I was young I remember it being something to be proud of.....probably woke now.
The world service remains something to be very proud of. In many countries, which have national broadcasters who are controlled by their governments, it is still the most trusted source of news and information. It is arguably our most valuable export, as it sets us apart from almost everyone else and shows the best aspects of British standards of respect and accuracy. An image that is very important but under threat from the current government and especially the PM. Funding that export, via the licence fee, and keeping the government's, of any hue, mucky hands off it, seems like very good value for money to me. Money we should all be willing and proud to pay. It's not all about "me" and what "I" get out of it. It's much bigger than that.
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| Spiderman Horsham 29 Sep 21 7.39am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The world service remains something to be very proud of. In many countries, which have national broadcasters who are controlled by their governments, it is still the most trusted source of news and information. It is arguably our most valuable export, as it sets us apart from almost everyone else and shows the best aspects of British standards of respect and accuracy. An image that is very important but under threat from the current government and especially the PM. Funding that export, via the licence fee, and keeping the government's, of any hue, mucky hands off it, seems like very good value for money to me. Money we should all be willing and proud to pay. It's not all about "me" and what "I" get out of it. It's much bigger than that. I honestly do not believe the Workd Service is listened to by any great numbers, with the internet and global news available on tv, people just do not listen to the “wireless”. Years ago, yes, but not now. Certainly does not warrant licence money being spent on it
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 becky over the moon 29 Sep 21 8.39am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The world service remains something to be very proud of. In many countries, which have national broadcasters who are controlled by their governments, it is still the most trusted source of news and information. It is arguably our most valuable export, as it sets us apart from almost everyone else and shows the best aspects of British standards of respect and accuracy. An image that is very important but under threat from the current government and especially the PM. Funding that export, via the licence fee, and keeping the government's, of any hue, mucky hands off it, seems like very good value for money to me. Money we should all be willing and proud to pay. It's not all about "me" and what "I" get out of it. It's much bigger than that. It is! Especially when I'm paying........
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| Badger11 Beckenham 29 Sep 21 9.20am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The world service remains something to be very proud of. In many countries, which have national broadcasters who are controlled by their governments, it is still the most trusted source of news and information. It is arguably our most valuable export, as it sets us apart from almost everyone else and shows the best aspects of British standards of respect and accuracy. An image that is very important but under threat from the current government and especially the PM. Funding that export, via the licence fee, and keeping the government's, of any hue, mucky hands off it, seems like very good value for money to me. Money we should all be willing and proud to pay. It's not all about "me" and what "I" get out of it. It's much bigger than that. The government already pays the BBC for the World Service and I can see it may have value. So this would be part of the BBC basic package I suggested.
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| silvertop Portishead 29 Sep 21 10.07am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I honestly do not believe the Workd Service is listened to by any great numbers, with the internet and global news available on tv, people just do not listen to the “wireless”. Years ago, yes, but not now. Certainly does not warrant licence money being spent on it 192 million listeners. And if there is someone on the Today program who you think - how did they get him/her on? - partly because that program reaches the ears in this country they want to reach; and partly the world wide amplification through the World Service. And while you may hate the woke nature of the BBC (I share, believe me!), you don't really feel it through the WS. Indeed, compared to the sort of state controlled garbage most world listeners are forced to consume, it is a bastion of impartiality. No wonder despots always seek to block it. Lived a year in Hong Kong and it was a life saver; and not just for the football. If it is not going to be spent through the license fee, it needs to be spent through the tax payer with a covenant to protect it against future government cuts e.g. 2/3 majority. Along with the OU, one of this nation's most important cultural entities.
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| Stirlingsays 29 Sep 21 4.05pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
192 million listeners. And if there is someone on the Today program who you think - how did they get him/her on? - partly because that program reaches the ears in this country they want to reach; and partly the world wide amplification through the World Service. And while you may hate the woke nature of the BBC (I share, believe me!), you don't really feel it through the WS. Indeed, compared to the sort of state controlled garbage most world listeners are forced to consume, it is a bastion of impartiality. No wonder despots always seek to block it. Lived a year in Hong Kong and it was a life saver; and not just for the football. If it is not going to be spent through the license fee, it needs to be spent through the tax payer with a covenant to protect it against future government cuts e.g. 2/3 majority. Along with the OU, one of this nation's most important cultural entities. While respecting Spider's opinion in light of what's been said of today's world service I probably would be happy to see it included within a protected license package. If nothing else in the west it has symbolic value but wider afield it can be a window for some into reason and objectivity in situations where civilisation seems distant (even if the modern west has travelled far from it) . Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Sep 2021 4.07pm)
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