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 Penge Eagle  Beckenham 24 Oct 18 4.27pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
That's ridiculous 150,000 EU workers here do not have new houses built for them, predominantly they rent rooms and share, they are not permanent anyway. Increased demand for rental properties means increased rent – for everyone. Google 'supply and demand'.
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| Stirlingsays 24 Oct 18 4.29pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Yes it is a fundamental principle. It is your right to love and work in the EU too, it is not a one-way street.
You could of course take the opportunity right now to leave the golden streets of Croydon and launch yourself into the EU and live and work there. You won't though. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Oct 2018 4.29pm)
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Oct 18 4.45pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
There has been government failure on housing AND one of the key factors is a supply-demand issue. The demand is partly due to immigration. Net migration from the EU is circa 150,000 a year, while 300,000 homes are needed to be built to sustain demand, yet the actual build is 170,000 homes per year. Do the math! Lack of supply = higher demand = higher prices. It's basic economics. I find it easier if you answer my points directly instead of someone elses! I would, except you’re making points that I don’t particularly disagree with, such is your rush to defend someone you see as on your side. I do find it funny that if I were to suggest that immigration concerns were the main reason people voted for Brexit, I have no doubt I would be told that’s ridiculous and unfounded. But if you challenge someone’s given reason because it doesn’t make sense, the justification given is.. immigration concerns.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 24 Oct 18 5.08pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Increased demand for rental properties means increased rent – for everyone. Google 'supply and demand'. Rubbish that applies to the entire population not an insignificant number of EU workers.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 24 Oct 18 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You could of course take the opportunity right now to leave the golden streets of Croydon and launch yourself into the EU and live and work there. You won't though. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Oct 2018 4.29pm) I already have. Unlike you I have lived and worked in Europe both here and West Germany. So my knowledge of Europe comes with actual experience of it.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 24 Oct 18 5.35pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I would, except you’re making points that I don’t particularly disagree with, such is your rush to defend someone you see as on your side. I do find it funny that if I were to suggest that immigration concerns were the main reason people voted for Brexit, I have no doubt I would be told that’s ridiculous and unfounded. But if you challenge someone’s given reason because it doesn’t make sense, the justification given is.. immigration concerns. Polls have shown the main reason for people wanting the UK to leave the EU was sovereignty. Immigration came second. Immigration would have been the no.1 choice for many people, depending on circumstances. Nothing wrong with that. The context of this immigration 'back and forth' is because someone mentioned the housing crisis, which is linked to immigration (amongst other things).
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| steeleye20 Croydon 24 Oct 18 5.47pm |
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'The day after we vote to leave we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want'. Michael Gove 9 April 2016
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| Stirlingsays 24 Oct 18 5.51pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I already have. Unlike you I have lived and worked in Europe both here and West Germany. So my knowledge of Europe comes with actual experience of it. I've spent some weeks in West Germany (my older brother was stationed there) and I've been to quite a few places in Europe. What you are saying is hardly unique.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 24 Oct 18 5.58pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I've spent some weeks in West Germany (my older brother was stationed there) and I've been to quite a few places in Europe. What you are saying is hardly unique. Anyone you would think you have spent life as a brainwashed little Englander.
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Pussay Patrol  24 Oct 18 7.56pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
How deluded is that? All the corruption and waste that the EU has been proven to enact. All the cooked books and we get....'it's for the greater good'. The UK politicians are advantaging one side of society (even though everyone gets to vote) yet the EU.....well, 'it's for the greater good'. Man alive. You talk like straight out of a tabloid Are you the forum mouthpiece for the daily mail?
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| Stirlingsays 24 Oct 18 8.16pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
You talk like straight out of a tabloid
I point out the obvious issue with your comment and as usual, you have no actual answer, so we get this.
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| Stirlingsays 24 Oct 18 8.21pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Anyone you would think you have spent life as a brainwashed little Englander. Just like the way you constructed that sentence Steely....perhaps thinking isn't something you've excelled at.
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