He doesn't "get it" at all. He constantly ignores the primary point.

Social distancing is important, but in crowded spaces it can be imprecise and in some impossible. Wearing a mask won't stop air containing the virus being either breathed in, or out. That though isn't the point. A mask interrupts the passage of a heavy viral load. It stops you delivering it to others, and you receiving it from others.

These though are just part of our community response, in which by far the most critical are the vaccines. Those who refuse them, without medical justification, even if they wear masks and socially distance, are letting us all down.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Vaccination is and has already been a pivotal part of the process of herd immunity.. or at least improved immunity against covid. Sure covid itself is also part of that, but some (not saying you) seem to have this strange idea that it's either/or. Clearly, for several demographics vaccination puts people in a much better position than simply catching covid out of the blue when they've never been exposed to it previously.

Yes "nature is cruel" but science is wonderful and there's little point in many succumbing to bad decisions rather than necessity even if you do believe we're overpopulated and "nature is balancing the books". If someone gets cancer or some other terrible disease they don't tend to say "oh well my time has come", they attempt to do something about it. It's perfectly natural to make sensible decisions regarding your own health just as it is to criticise those acting in such a way that encourages people into making crap ones.

Edited by BlueJay (10 Dec 2021 12.21am)

It's hardly strange for someone to make their own healthcare decisions. Many people don't take up the flu vaccine even though they may not be particularly against it. Natural immunity is in of itself stronger than any individual vaccine and there will always be people not wishing to commitment themselves to a lifestyle and lifetime of vaccine jabs....the kill ratio being particularly low.....especially when it encourages the state to use it for the basis of many extremely insidious policies.

People naturally want to fall into all or nothing groups, which rarely reflects reality.

If you want to take the vaccine for others and wear your high quality mask for others then I have a certain amount of respect for that. However, we all make our own decisions....well, some aren't really being given practical choices and there's a lot of people shrugging their shoulders over that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2021 12.38am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yep, if the figures are looked at that appears the easy answer to what happened.

Indeed, if they actually believed it made a significant difference they would have ensured that only the top quality masks were allowed.....its main use is for social conformity.....they have a team of behavioural scientists but apparently few factor that in because they were sold on the concept.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2021 12.43am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Why is it that you still cannot understand the difference between 'not safe' and 'unsafe'? A new vaccine cannot be deemed safe until such time as all factors are met, as in Thalidomide (which is still used today, although unsafe for pregnant women).

Also, I didn't eventually opt for the vaccine, I never said I wouldn't have it. That was your imagination.

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

I don't know if it's accurate but I know in the video I linked to that surgeon talked about heart inflammation in the young and that even if there is a tiny risk to themselves that coercing them into vaccines, with no expression of risk....not telling them that there is no legal redress, not telling that long term effects are not known, isn't ethically sound.

Everything in life is risk management and the young are very trusting.

It was advised against medically and the government just told them to think again....I think that says it all.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2021 12.50am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)