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Pussay Patrol Flag 23 Oct 18 6.16am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Excuse me!? What 'right wing media' is that now?

Also, blaming housing policy.....are you for real? Do you know how much it costs to build houses for low income social housing?

The very fact that hundreds of thousands of immigrants come in every year makes you point utter drivel. Even if decision makers at the local or government level wanted to build the required number of houses they couldn't.

You would need the Marshall plan.

'the problem with the left is that they run out of other people's money'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Oct 2018 11.32pm)

There are many ways you could build social housing at low cost and if it's needed it should be done. What about the fact you cannot buy in Central London? only the mega rich can buy and that pushes up prices and spreads to the outskirts. Tax them more and use that to build more social housing

Immigration could be used as one factor for increased demand but you only pinpoint that over many contributory factors as you let your prejudices blind rational thought

Edited by Pussay Patrol (23 Oct 2018 6.17am)

 


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dannyboy1978 Flag 23 Oct 18 9.17am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

If there's a housing shortage then local and central government policy have not acted to resolve the problem, other factors such as right to buy, buy to let, ease of borrowing and lack of regulation in the housing sector all culminate in pushing up house prices. Instead of calling on these rational explanations people such as yourself look to blame another section of society, mainly from stories peddled by the right wing media

I don't think you understand my point. Ive never blamed immigrants for trying to better them selves, I blame government. Government failures to build enough housing stock have pushed up house prices so most of MY disposable income now goes towards my housing.

I then get asked to Vote, IN or OUT. I voted OUT because of OUR Government failures not immigrants. But the left keep banding Racist around,they just don't get it.

Would a business employ more workers if it didn't have the facilities to look after them ? No!

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 23 Oct 18 9.40am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

There are many ways you could build social housing at low cost and if it's needed it should be done. What about the fact you cannot buy in Central London? only the mega rich can buy and that pushes up prices and spreads to the outskirts. Tax them more and use that to build more social housing

Immigration could be used as one factor for increased demand but you only pinpoint that over many contributory factors as you let your prejudices blind rational thought

Edited by Pussay Patrol (23 Oct 2018 6.17am)

What 'right wing media'?

As for the illiterate idea that's never worked.

Tax the mega rich? What's that? The top one percent? Five percent? Are you living in the past? These people aren't nationally restricted.

This is what makes me so angry about the left....Don't you understand? Being 'mega rich' means you make your money nontaxable by use of accountants. And if you could somehow change that being 'mega rich' means you can leave.

Also, do you have even the slightest idea of how much money you need to build this social housing when your own policies are welcoming 300, 000 new people a year into the country when you have millions already waiting for homes?

So this make believe of 'taxing the rich' is just for the houses then.

In reality your idea just means money accelerates away from the country 'Lewis Hamilton' style.

The far left tell the poor they will improve things by talking economic make believe when in reality the result makes the poor poorer.

In reality your 'tax' is going to fall on the middle and lower middle class.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2018 9.41am)

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 23 Oct 18 9.44am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol


There are many ways you could build social housing at low cost and if it's needed it should be done. What about the fact you cannot buy in Central London? only the mega rich can buy and that pushes up prices and spreads to the outskirts. Tax them more and use that to build more social housing

Harold Wilson tried that with a top rate of tax of over 90% and all of the bright people pushed off to USA and other more enlightened countries leaving just the dullards to run British industry

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 23 Oct 18 10.19am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Harold Wilson tried that with a top rate of tax of over 90% and all of the bright people pushed off to USA and other more enlightened countries leaving just the dullards to run British industry

I wouldn't change income tax, i'm talking more about property taxes. I would put a tax on people with 2nd properties and increase council tax on properties over £1m. Use that to tackle homelessness and put into improving social housing

At the end of the day we have huge wealth in London and many expensive properties out of the reach of ordinary people, yet homelessness is at record levels and we allowed Grenfell to happen in one of the richest parts of the country. Big social imbalance, it's time to redress that

 


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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Harold Wilson tried that with a top rate of tax of over 90% and all of the bright people pushed off to USA and other more enlightened countries leaving just the dullards to run British industry

I am sure people realise that income tax is staged and only a very few rich people paid at the 90% top band.


 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 23 Oct 18 10.30am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What 'right wing media'?

As for the illiterate idea that's never worked.

Tax the mega rich? What's that? The top one percent? Five percent? Are you living in the past? These people aren't nationally restricted.

This is what makes me so angry about the left....Don't you understand? Being 'mega rich' means you make your money nontaxable by use of accountants. And if you could somehow change that being 'mega rich' means you can leave.

Also, do you have even the slightest idea of how much money you need to build this social housing when your own policies are welcoming 300, 000 new people a year into the country when you have millions already waiting for homes?

So this make believe of 'taxing the rich' is just for the houses then.

In reality your idea just means money accelerates away from the country 'Lewis Hamilton' style.

The far left tell the poor they will improve things by talking economic make believe when in reality the result makes the poor poorer.

In reality your 'tax' is going to fall on the middle and lower middle class.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2018 9.41am)

That's not true, Lewis Hamilton's lifestyle is such that he is rarely in one place and he doesn't make his income in the UK so it makes sense for him to be based in a tax haven, you can't apply the same theory across the board

If you're happy for the rich and corporates to take advantage of taxloopholes and pay as little as possible, fine. I guess as long as ordinary folk blame immigrants for all the countries ills they can get away with it

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 23 Oct 18 10.35am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I wouldn't change income tax, i'm talking more about property taxes. I would put a tax on people with 2nd properties and increase council tax on properties over £1m. Use that to tackle homelessness and put into improving social housing

You'd end up with loads of bankrupt pensioners.

My parents live in an affluent Surrey suburb and they paid about £8,500 for their house some forty years ago.

The house is now approaching your target value of £1m but my 91 year old mother couldn't afford to pay any more Council Tax out of her pension and I'm guessing that her whole road is in a similar position

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Oct 18 10.39am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

You'd end up with loads of bankrupt pensioners.

My parents live in an affluent Surrey suburb and they paid about £8,500 for their house some forty years ago.

The house is now approaching your target value of £1m but my 91 year old mother couldn't afford to pay any more Council Tax out of her pension and I'm guessing that her whole road is in a similar position

Good point. My retired friend and his wife never had well paid jobs but scrapped by. I shocked him the other day by showing him Zoopla (he doesn't do technology) the houses in his street are worth 800k yet they don't have dispoal income.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 23 Oct 18 10.41am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

That's not true, Lewis Hamilton's lifestyle is such that he is rarely in one place and he doesn't make his income in the UK so it makes sense for him to be based in a tax haven, you can't apply the same theory across the board

Lewis Hamilton is actually employed by a UK registered company and therefore his salary will be paid in the UK even though he races around the world

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 23 Oct 18 10.44am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

That's not true, Lewis Hamilton's lifestyle is such that he is rarely in one place and he doesn't make his income in the UK so it makes sense for him to be based in a tax haven, you can't apply the same theory across the board

If you're happy for the rich and corporates to take advantage of taxloopholes and pay as little as possible, fine. I guess as long as ordinary folk blame immigrants for all the countries ills they can get away with it

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The lifestyle of the vast majority of 'mega rich' is no different.

'If I'm happy'???? Emotion has absolutely zilch to do with it....Nada, nothing. I hate the fact that the left lie to the economically illiterate and the young, who don't know any better, about what's possible.

Again, how are you going to keep the money in the country to 'tax'? How do you stop the 'mega rich' from transferring wealth into untaxable means? You can't....stop participating in lies to the vulnerable. because that's what it amounts to.

Again, the only 'extra' money you will collect will be from those who can't leave or can't afford to hide it.

While I have sympathy for the idea of corporates paying more any significant change will only result in future investment going elsewhere.....low tax attracts business.

For the third time, what 'right wing media'?


Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2018 10.54am)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 23 Oct 18 10.49am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

You'd end up with loads of bankrupt pensioners.

My parents live in an affluent Surrey suburb and they paid about £8,500 for their house some forty years ago.

The house is now approaching your target value of £1m but my 91 year old mother couldn't afford to pay any more Council Tax out of her pension and I'm guessing that her whole road is in a similar position

You know it.

 


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