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 Penge Eagle  Beckenham 21 Oct 18 9.53pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
That's not really the issue, alot of people voted leave based on xenophobia I'm not spreading anything, I'm happy with immigration, it benefits our economy and I don't think it's a big problem There are many on the left who believe that we have to rectify the imbalances of Britain's colonial history with a 'white guilt' by having unlimited immigration and to hell with the consequences. Of course they see zero negatives because it doesn't fit in with the strange ideology and will never accept any facts or evidence to the contrary. To query this automatically means you are a racist or xenophobe. I guess you are in that camp? Edited by Penge Eagle (21 Oct 2018 9.54pm)
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Pussay Patrol  22 Oct 18 6.16am |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
There are many on the left who believe that we have to rectify the imbalances of Britain's colonial history with a 'white guilt' by having unlimited immigration and to hell with the consequences. Of course they see zero negatives because it doesn't fit in with the strange ideology and will never accept any facts or evidence to the contrary. To query this automatically means you are a racist or xenophobe. I guess you are in that camp? Edited by Penge Eagle (21 Oct 2018 9.54pm) No I see alot of issues we face in Britain whether it be the economy, the NHS, cost of living, Brexit and immigration is not high on the list yet it is usually the number one subject that concerns voters. I think to myself why is that? For me lot scaremongering by UKIP and tabloid press which tap into people's prejudices, i.e. find a section of society to blame. Just a pity so many, even intelligent people, have swallowed this pill
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| Midlands Eagle 22 Oct 18 7.53am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I see alot of issues we face in Britain whether it be the economy, the NHS, cost of living, Brexit and immigration is not high on the list yet it is usually the number one subject that concerns voters. Where on earth did you get that idea from?
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 22 Oct 18 10.21am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
No I see alot of issues we face in Britain whether it be the economy, the NHS, cost of living, Brexit and immigration is not high on the list yet it is usually the number one subject that concerns voters. I think to myself why is that? For me lot scaremongering by UKIP and tabloid press which tap into people's prejudices, i.e. find a section of society to blame. Just a pity so many, even intelligent people, have swallowed this pill Well why don't you research why this is the case, and look at things like jobs and wage deflation for example, instead of demonising everyone as racist? And what about the likes of the Guardian or Independent that tap in to your prejudices? The pseudo-intellectuals. Ever thought about that? Edited by Penge Eagle (22 Oct 2018 10.22am)
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| Pussay Patrol 22 Oct 18 10.22am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Where on earth did you get that idea from? doesn't this thread highlight that?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 22 Oct 18 11.04am |
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95% there says May. Hope for remainers still then.
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| Pussay Patrol 22 Oct 18 12.40pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Well why don't you research why this is the case, and look at things like jobs and wage deflation for example, instead of demonising everyone as racist? And what about the likes of the Guardian or Independent that tap in to your prejudices? The pseudo-intellectuals. Ever thought about that? Edited by Penge Eagle (22 Oct 2018 10.22am) I don't need to look for reasons why immigration is the most important issue when it isn't because i'm not pushing that agenda I'm trying to research and understand why immigration bothers people so much in the face of facts that show it isn't a big problem (and in terms of EU freedom of movement has benefited our economy) I want to believe it's not Xenephobia but I can't see any other reason
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| Stirlingsays 22 Oct 18 12.53pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I don't need to look for reasons why immigration is the most important issue when it isn't because i'm not pushing that agenda I'm trying to research and understand why immigration bothers people so much in the face of facts that show it isn't a big problem (and in terms of EU freedom of movement has benefited our economy) I want to believe it's not Xenephobia but I can't see any other reason I'm not sure why it matters how you feel about it. But you can rest assured as a phobia is an irrational fear and there's nothing irrational about disliking and recognising the negatives from too many foreigners taking citizenship and jobs in the country. You have already been shown that it's a net loss....something that will only worsen as immigrants get older and add to the aging ratio problem.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 22 Oct 18 1.29pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I could list loads of reasons but I feel that it wouldn't change your mind. If you are genuinely interested, then there is a lot of information online regarding immigration and Brexit from a wide range of media outlets.
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| dannyboy1978 22 Oct 18 1.46pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I don't need to look for reasons why immigration is the most important issue when it isn't because i'm not pushing that agenda I'm trying to research and understand why immigration bothers people so much in the face of facts that show it isn't a big problem (and in terms of EU freedom of movement has benefited our economy) I want to believe it's not Xenephobia but I can't see any other reason Less police, stagnating wages, skint councils, NHS struggling, house prices to high, government still borrowing, Yes hasn't our economy done well!! As for immigrants all I See is mass migration putting up house prices so in answer I would be happy to earn less if houses wernt so expensive and that's the fault of our government. They wanted growth on the cheap! And got it. If they governed correctly people might have actually been happy staying in the EU.
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| Pussay Patrol 22 Oct 18 10.24pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Less police, stagnating wages, skint councils, NHS struggling, house prices to high, government still borrowing, Yes hasn't our economy done well!! As for immigrants all I See is mass migration putting up house prices so in answer I would be happy to earn less if houses wernt so expensive and that's the fault of our government. They wanted growth on the cheap! And got it. If they governed correctly people might have actually been happy staying in the EU. If there's a housing shortage then local and central government policy have not acted to resolve the problem, other factors such as right to buy, buy to let, ease of borrowing and lack of regulation in the housing sector all culminate in pushing up house prices. Instead of calling on these rational explanations people such as yourself look to blame another section of society, mainly from stories peddled by the right wing media
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| Stirlingsays 22 Oct 18 11.30pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
If there's a housing shortage then local and central government policy have not acted to resolve the problem, other factors such as right to buy, buy to let, ease of borrowing and lack of regulation in the housing sector all culminate in pushing up house prices. Instead of calling on these rational explanations people such as yourself look to blame another section of society, mainly from stories peddled by the right wing media
Also, blaming housing policy.....are you for real? Do you know how much it costs to build houses for low income social housing? The very fact that hundreds of thousands of immigrants come in every year makes you point utter drivel. Even if decision makers at the local or government level wanted to build the required number of houses they couldn't. You would need the Marshall plan. 'the problem with the left is that they run out of other people's money'. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Oct 2018 11.32pm)
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