There you go again! Claiming you know what I mean better than I do!

Do you not see how arrogant that is?

The Tories need to make up their mind if they want to survive as a major party or risk rivalling Reform, or whatever Farage decides to call himself, as the home for the fringe on the right. They will only survive if they control the centre. The same is true for every party. They may have to do it in coalitions in the future as I see a major realignment on the horizon, which is long overdue. People with views like yours must have voices in parliament but never again via controlling a major party. We need some honesty and for the hard right fringe of the Tories to leave in some way and join Farage. Maybe that’s where Johnson is headed!

That you, again, insult me by suggesting I don’t condemn child mutilation is disgusting. Of course I do. I just don’t use such over emotional terms to describe medical procedures. You let your prejudices overcome reason.

You are talking from an orifice other than your mouth!

No time to test what was theoretically understood and not the primary purpose of the vaccines. To delay the roll out for such a spurious reason would have been crazy and cost many lives.

Vaccines do stop transmissions! Not all but by reducing symptoms they reduce enough for herd immunity to eventually be established. The statement you quoted was always true but completely beside the point.

It’s only those seeking to stick knives into Biden or the vaccines that want to see things in what people said in ways that suit their agenda.

More Mengele-esque language. The paralllels are uncanny!

There's your problem right there. Calling it a "medical procedure" when it is child mutilation.

Of course not. Mengele had no compassion for those he used to experiment on.

Those involved in seeking to understand this clinically recognised medical condition, and sometimes to recommend using surgery as a treatment, are driven only by compassion. That you, and others, fail to realise that doesn’t change the motivation.

My own view is that we must develop stringent regulations with several clinicians from various disciplines being involved in the decision making. This is the standard practice in most medical decisions these days. A multi-disciplinary-team, or MDT is established to review everything and reach agreements at every stage. There is no chance of a stray nutcase causing harm. Oversight already ensures that. Now we need to ensure this is more widely understood to avoid the kind of responses to be read here.

I have no more idea than anyone else but I would expect surgery to be a last resort option in most cases and only used when the potential risk of self harm, and suicide, is thought to be really serious.

Deluding yourself to believe that you are compassionate is very much aligned to commitment to ideological nonsense, even that so barbaric as and evil as butchering children.

Those who have failed to find meaning or achievement in life and evidence to justify their own existence will cling to any cheap, easily accessible option, even one as horrific as an ideology promulgating experimental mutilation of children, as a pathetic last resort to fill the void left from their own failing.

It is horrifyingly nazi-esque to put forth the notion that:

1. Mutilating children aesthetically and internally, in an imperfect fashion, to make them into something they are scientifically, unequivocally not = compassionate
2. Suggesting that this not take place in any way shape or form = no compassion