I trust the data, the methodology and the research. Not your anecdotes. Gases and odours are not the same as aerosols and large droplets. Simply stating you face fit employees does not discredit the point I am making, via others detailed analysis.

While gainful employment, it also sounds incredibly boring.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Certainly the lower the quality of mask the less useful it is. There are more than enough studies to know conclusively that high quality masks are very effective.. Several studies in hospital settings put that beyond doubt. If anyone in vulnerable they would benefit from wearing one in travel and supermarket environment, and if anyone interested in protecting them they should do the same.

You'll not find many as suspicious of government than me and they are in so many regards authoritarian (regarding clamping down on protests, snowden type revelations, and more). Certainly some covid measures tick that box, but I think there's a danger of just viewing 'anything' done at this time through that lens of suspicion, when I'm not sure that's always useful or the case. People fall into ill fitting batches of beliefs (such as suspicious of vaccination) which often make other outcomes that they are against 'more likely' to happen (lockdowns).

I tend to align with a moderate approach to just getting on with things and taking basic sensible steps along the way. I hope and believe that mass vaccination (and to a lesser extent, not insignificant natural infection) will get us over this next bump and that things will diminish from there.

Edited by BlueJay (09 Dec 2021 1.37am)

Rather you rambled on about not having one. You have history of having a bizarre attitude towards vaccination, where you essentially 'hid' the fact that you had been vaccinated (cries of invasion of privacy!) on account of being embarrassed you'd previously repeatedly said they'd be 'unsafe'.

I was simply highlighting that taking someone to task about the rights and wrongs of masks (when they're not wrong anyway), close to announcing that you haven't had a booster, like you're Rambo or something doesn't make an awful lot of sense. The science is firmly in favour of getting the booster, so if you've had the other two then you should. Who knows maybe you will and haven't got around to it.

Edited by BlueJay (09 Dec 2021 1.34am)

They reduce the chance of you getting high viral load, and therefore by extension depending on scenario, COVID. As evident the viral load point is more relevant and what I stated in bold. Pal.

And I’ve read some more on your advice. In Covid context, the micron size that offers the most threat is in the 20-30 range, according to a 2020 study. Below that particles carry very little or no virus. FFP2 and N95s block ~90% of particles well below that size. It’s that simple.

~90% might not be acceptable for silica which can go as small as 0.1 microns. But particles that can be absorbed or evaporate are very different to silica. As you should know.

Science innit

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Maybe this thread is a protracted, low budget sequel to Ghost where the vaccine has caused so much carnage that Tim is communicating through the spirit world. Thankfully I don't own a pottery wheel.

I agree on surgical masks, though that's a relatively expensive habit and likely unrealistic nationally. Also, it's 'one use and throw' and requires you not touching your face and so on....I tip my hat to your dedication but that's not for me....I'll keep a reasonable distance and not engage in long conversations....you know, copying my dating techniques as a teenager.

I don't think most infection is happening in supermarkets or such places like that unless it's packed but rather how much social distancing is built into the culture and behaviour If we look at home settings for example where people spend more than a little time interacting and thus gaining viral load how packed and what the attitude is towards personal space is going to matter.
The mindset that exists in Japan for example has an impact even though its population density is significantly higher within its cities.... Compare that to Italy, where it has high numbers living in the same housing and where personal space is seen as stand offish......the culture norms of different countries really key into impacts.

Governments talk to each other and act in unison where they wish to....the whole 'build back better' has been a chorus with little individualism as separate states. No sooner have Austria started mandatory vaccinations we hear the media asking the government about the same here and the government refusing to deny it's under consideration......that's called testing the water....and there are plenty of 'good blokes' like WE ready to clap them on.

Damn right I'm suspicious. I guess we will see what comes out of the government over these next few weeks.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Dec 2021 1.53am)

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