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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 07 Dec 23 7.46am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Two stories I heard about October 7th A great example of exactly how propaganda works.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 07 Dec 23 7.50am | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
A great example of exactly how propaganda works. So you categorically know that the events described did not happen.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 07 Dec 23 8.29am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
So you categorically know that the events described did not happen. He’s the one claiming they did - does he categorically know they did happen? Pointless pedantry and just poor logic. Supporting a civilian massacre because ‘you heard a story’ that has not been verified anywhere is stupid - it’s exactly how governments use propaganda to gain support for a cause, which is the point I made. We all ‘heard a story’ about 40 beheaded babies too.
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georgenorman 07 Dec 23 8.43am | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
He’s the one claiming they did - does he categorically know they did happen? Pointless pedantry and just poor logic. Supporting a civilian massacre because ‘you heard a story’ that has not been verified anywhere is stupid - it’s exactly how governments use propaganda to gain support for a cause, which is the point I made. We all ‘heard a story’ about 40 beheaded babies too. Yet you quote Hamas sourced casualty figures without question.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 07 Dec 23 8.52am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Yet you quote Hamas sourced casualty figures without question. There is little discrepancy between the Hamas estimates and that of the UN - there is also a long history of Hamas’ accurately reporting death tolls - there was a whole fact checking investigation into it: [Link] So not without question, no - you should try it.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 07 Dec 23 8.58am | |
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This isn't about taking sides. What Hamas did was barbaric and stupid. The way the Israeli's have behaved and responded is sub-human. There are innocents being blasted to bits or starved to death, and this can be stopped. So why isn't it ? 20,000 civilian deaths not enough ?
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Hrolf The Ganger 07 Dec 23 9.00am | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
A great example of exactly how propaganda works. And you are a great example of how prejudice works. Why do you doubt that Hamas operatives are capable of this stuff? ISIS certainly had no problem with heathen brutality. That is documented. Are you saying that Hamas are a nicer kind of radical Muslim death cult?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Dec 23 9.13am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
And you are a great example of how prejudice works. Why do you doubt that Hamas operatives are capable of this stuff? ISIS certainly had no problem with heathen brutality. That is documented. Are you saying that Hamas are a nicer kind of radical Muslim death cult?
I have not read anyone here, or elsewhere, defend what Hamas did on Oct 7th. It was an appallingly atrocity for which there are no excuses. I have however heard many here, and elsewhere, defend the actions of the IDF in their response. A response which, even by their standards, seems hugely disproportionate. The loss of innocent civilian life, whether Israeli or Palestinian, ought to be condemned by all. All life is precious and one life is not more valuable than another.
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Hrolf The Ganger 07 Dec 23 9.17am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have not read anyone here, or elsewhere, defend what Hamas did on Oct 7th. It was an appallingly atrocity for which there are no excuses. I have however heard many here, and elsewhere, defend the actions of the IDF in their response. A response which, even by their standards, seems hugely disproportionate. The loss of innocent civilian life, whether Israeli or Palestinian, ought to be condemned by all. All life is precious and one life is not more valuable than another. It's not about proportion, as you know full well. It is about removing the problem and occupying the Gaza strip. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Dec 2023 9.17am)
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 07 Dec 23 9.49am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
And you are a great example of how prejudice works. Why do you doubt that Hamas operatives are capable of this stuff? ISIS certainly had no problem with heathen brutality. That is documented. Are you saying that Hamas are a nicer kind of radical Muslim death cult?
No, I’m not, I’m saying there is nothing to support the specific allegations made, and using said allegations as the entire basis for your opinion is therefore stupid. Let’s be clear here - I have condemned Hamas’ deplorable actions numerous times. The factual information we have about what they have done is enough to be disgusted by them without the need to invent and regurgitate rumour. The sole purpose of these ‘stories’ is to further dehumanise and justify a massacre. You are all very comfortable with Israel kidnapping and murdering women and children at a far larger scale, and yet seek to accuse me of somehow failing to condemn terrorism - it’s almost laughable.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 07 Dec 23 9.50am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It's not about proportion, as you know full well. It is about removing the problem and occupying the Gaza strip. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Dec 2023 9.17am) ‘Removing the problem’ = the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocents. Glad you’re ok with that.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Dec 23 9.56am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It's not about proportion, as you know full well. It is about removing the problem and occupying the Gaza strip. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Dec 2023 9.17am) However you, Netanyahu or anybody else tries to justify it doesn’t change the facts. Innocent lives are being lost in their thousands. At the same time Israel is ensuring that the hatred and thirst for revenge will pass to another generation. The USA in supporting them is damaging its already declining reputation.
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