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eritheagle Flag Erith 09 Jul 24 6.50pm Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

I think this new Government has started off brilliantly and the future is definitely looking bright.....

......if you're NOT a woman or if you are a junior doctor, a prisoner or a migrant/potential terrorist in calais who'd rather get a plane here than a dinghy!!

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 09 Jul 24 8.52pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

If as reported the junior doctors want a minimum of 26% pay rise element then as I posted elsewhere earlier, that's billions unfunded in this parliament.

Not so easy being the Government

Edited by HKOwen (10 Jul 2024 1.39am)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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DANGERCLOSE Flag London 09 Jul 24 10.51pm Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

More on pensions

[Link]

 

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DANGERCLOSE Flag London 10 Jul 24 7.46am Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Here we go

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 10 Jul 24 8.10am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

People’s desperation for the new government to fail (something which would make millions of people’s lives worst), just to feel like they’ve been proved right in their opinions is very strange to see.

I didn’t vote for this government, but their success or failure has a material impact on my life, and I certainly won’t be hoping for failure so I can feel vindicated in my decision - I find it a very weird position to take.

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 10 Jul 24 8.14am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

People’s desperation for the new government to fail (something which would make millions of people’s lives worst), just to feel like they’ve been proved right in their opinions is very strange to see.

I didn’t vote for this government, but their success or failure has a material impact on my life, and I certainly won’t be hoping for failure so I can feel vindicated in my decision - I find it a very weird position to take.

If that is the case then I agree with you but some have taken that exact stance over Brexit.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 10 Jul 24 8.18am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

If that is the case then I agree with you but some have taken that exact stance over Brexit.

That’s certainly true.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Jul 24 9.00am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

More on pensions

[Link]

Using top experts as advisers makes sense for any government. They might actually know a bit more about the subject than a journalist on a right wing tabloid.

What he says makes perfect sense. Suggesting pensioners must possibly contribute more than Britons of working age in some circumstances, and if the public finances are in a bit of a state, perhaps wealthy pensioners should be giving up their full state pension, is perfectly sensible.

I too think pensioners should contribute more. Not necessarily through higher taxation, though that’s also likely, but through voluntary effort in helping the less fortunate. Many already do. Some drive people to hospital appointments. One friend of mine fits hearing aids in care homes and in people’s own homes. All done just for expenses. If you can, you should.

Nor do I think it unreasonable to look at whether paying the state pension to those who don’t need it to live well makes sense, although I suspect the potential costs would outweigh the benefit. I wouldn’t expect that to happen but I do expect the tax burden on the wealthy retired to be eased upwards.

It’s unlikely though to impact too many Express readers.

 


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beak Flag croydon 10 Jul 24 9.11am Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

More on pensions

[Link]

Newspaper reporting of the worst kind.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Jul 24 9.13am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Using top experts as advisers makes sense for any government. They might actually know a bit more about the subject than a journalist on a right wing tabloid.

What he says makes perfect sense. Suggesting pensioners must possibly contribute more than Britons of working age in some circumstances, and if the public finances are in a bit of a state, perhaps wealthy pensioners should be giving up their full state pension, is perfectly sensible.

I too think pensioners should contribute more. Not necessarily through higher taxation, though that’s also likely, but through voluntary effort in helping the less fortunate. Many already do. Some drive people to hospital appointments. One friend of mine fits hearing aids in care homes and in people’s own homes. All done just for expenses. If you can, you should.

Nor do I think it unreasonable to look at whether paying the state pension to those who don’t need it to live well makes sense, although I suspect the potential costs would outweigh the benefit. I wouldn’t expect that to happen but I do expect the tax burden on the wealthy retired to be eased upwards.

It’s unlikely though to impact too many Express readers.

So we should penalise people for being responsible?

And you claim to be a Tory?

Hilarious.

 

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silvertop Flag Portishead 10 Jul 24 9.56am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So we should penalise people for being responsible?

And you claim to be a Tory?

Hilarious.

That is a deeply nuanced interpretation of what he said and one that makes little or no contact with reality.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Jul 24 10.34am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

That is a deeply nuanced interpretation of what he said and one that makes little or no contact with reality.

You'll have to explain that statement.

There is simply no justification for denying state pension to people who have been responsible enough to save for their retirement and or have been more successful in life.
What you would be basically saying is don't bother to prepare for retirement because the government will punish you for it.

 

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