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Fanofzhiyi Kent 25 Apr 24 12.09pm | |
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Originally posted by DenTyler
What a find OG has been. It is like I’m supporting a different team. I cannot believe how much better we are compared to just a few weeks ago. I dont want to get carried away but I’m actually looking forward to next season now. We have just ticked over for so long I’d forgotten how it feels to be positive. I bet Liverpool are kicking themselves that they never looked at OG as Klopps replacement. Well done to all involved in bringing him, Wharton and Munoz in. Genius. Absolutely, A worry in the back of my mind is that a big club might try something if we end the season like this. I suspect Glasner will stick around and build something though. As long as we back his expectations he will be happy.
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radicalsteve ottawa 25 Apr 24 1.27pm | |
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Originally posted by WJK1960
Absolutely loving all the positive comments. Totally deserved. I know I shouldn't get worked up about this, but big teams already have enough of an advantage without deliberate gamesmanship/cheating. I saw 3 obvious examples yesterday : 1. Guimaraes going down apparently 'badly injured' in about the 25th minute, giving time for Howe to call in the team for a tactical chat. Guimaraes gets up with no ill effects whatsoever. A coincidence that he did this within earshot of the Newcastle
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Hrolf The Ganger 25 Apr 24 1.42pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
No, but they would not be going down to League 1 either. Possibly. Possibly not. There seems to be a tendency to see thing in simple terms on the football threads. This is all about an I told you so attitude regarding Roy Hodgson.
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 25 Apr 24 2.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Possibly. Possibly not. There seems to be a tendency to see thing in simple terms on the football threads. This is all about an I told you so attitude regarding Roy Hodgson.
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Davepalace707 Northumberland 25 Apr 24 2.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Possibly. Possibly not. There seems to be a tendency to see thing in simple terms on the football threads. This is all about an I told you so attitude regarding Roy Hodgson. So is your point that if Roy was still here and we’d had Eze and Olise available, We’d still have beaten Liverpool and played West Ham & Newcastle off the park?
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silvertop Portishead 25 Apr 24 2.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Possibly. Possibly not. There seems to be a tendency to see thing in simple terms on the football threads. This is all about an I told you so attitude regarding Roy Hodgson. I know, you're a 10% man. However, don't look to the 2 flair players but to the journeymen squad fodder. Will Hughes as just one. New found quality and self belief. He's like a new signing. I was never anti Roy. But when you see a team so comprehensively transformed with essentially the same players you have to say that OG represents more than 10% at this point.
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george1212 london 25 Apr 24 2.32pm | |
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Saw this on the newcastle forum: "Their midfield were better than us. The albino ran the show, even against Bruno which just should not be.. but here we are." That made me laugh! I guess Hughes can take that as a compliment. On the whole the Newcastle forum were very complimentary of us. Honestly I'm suprised how sh1t they were after all the media hype about their new ownership and everything and finishing top 4 last season - they look very average. Bruno Guimares was their only standout player...
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The Dolphin 25 Apr 24 2.42pm | |
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A team is just that - including the management and backroom staff.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 25 Apr 24 2.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Possibly. Possibly not. There seems to be a tendency to see thing in simple terms on the football threads. This is all about an I told you so attitude regarding Roy Hodgson. Have to disagree with this, particularly after the bizarre comment on my last post though I suspected prejudice behind it. The vitriol thrown Roy's way is unwarranted IMHO, we should be very grateful to him. It was not working this season however and he looked to have run out of ideas to stop our rot and downward slide. This is football and a business at the end of the day. Mateta/Edouard often looked completely isolated, the defence looked shaky, we did not move the ball well and could hardly muster scoring opportunities. Confidence, morale etc. looked at an all time low and this was reflected in the stands. Olise and Eze's individual brilliance was perhaps highlighted by how poor everything else was. Glasner plays a completely different system with it's own style. Players have even been posting on social media as to how much they are enjoying it. Olise had very little impact after coming on yesterday in a team that played three days previously and was still missing Johnstone, Guehi, Doucoure, Lerma, Franca and started without him in the first instance. That's 6 players who we'd all expect to feature with all things equal. Players who'd been written off (including by me) such as JPM, Hughes and Clyne now look like star performers. Even the old Jeffrey helped make the second yesterday. We overran and outplayed both WHU and Newcastle after winning at Anfield. Of the latter two, the first being Liverpool, one of those teams won a European Cup recently and the other was in the CL this season. Guardiola at City, Klopp at Liverpool, Emery at Villa, O'Neill at Wolves and Iraola at B'mouth are just a few recent examples of where managers can change teams. The players kick the ball but their conditioning, tactics/instruction and morale will dictate the level at which they do so. There has been notable improvement in all the aforementioned. To suggest they just suddenly and coincidentally found form a few games after a new manager arrived with a whole new approach and there is no parallel between the two is a notion which is deliberately choosing to ignore the evidence for this happening. All those 'hating' Hodgson need to give their heads a wobble however Glasner's arrival and impact has to be noted as it's clear to see. I've never seen a Palace team look so impressive and that's more than just a purple patch.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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Davepalace707 Northumberland 25 Apr 24 3.22pm | |
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Originally posted by george1212
Saw this on the newcastle forum: "Their midfield were better than us. The albino ran the show, even against Bruno which just should not be.. but here we are." That made me laugh! I guess Hughes can take that as a compliment. On the whole the Newcastle forum were very complimentary of us. Honestly I'm suprised how sh1t they were after all the media hype about their new ownership and everything and finishing top 4 last season - they look very average. Bruno Guimares was their only standout player...
Up here in Geordie Land they are not happy. I on the other hand have had a v enjoyable 24 hours. They are an entitled bunch and I wouldn’t be surprised if Howe is moved on in the summer.
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 25 Apr 24 3.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Have to disagree with this, particularly after the bizarre comment on my last post though I suspected prejudice behind it. The vitriol thrown Roy's way is unwarranted IMHO, we should be very grateful to him. It was not working this season however and he looked to have run out of ideas to stop our rot and downward slide. This is football and a business at the end of the day. Mateta/Edouard often looked completely isolated, the defence looked shaky, we did not move the ball well and could hardly muster scoring opportunities. Confidence, morale etc. looked at an all time low and this was reflected in the stands. Olise and Eze's individual brilliance was perhaps highlighted by how poor everything else was. Glasner plays a completely different system with it's own style. Players have even been posting on social media as to how much they are enjoying it. Olise had very little impact after coming on yesterday in a team that played three days previously and was still missing Johnstone, Guehi, Doucoure, Lerma, Franca and started without him in the first instance. That's 6 players who we'd all expect to feature with all things equal. Players who'd been written off (including by me) such as JPM, Hughes and Clyne now look like star performers. Even the old Jeffrey helped make the second yesterday. We overran and outplayed both WHU and Newcastle after winning at Anfield. Of the latter two, the first being Liverpool, one of those teams won a European Cup recently and the other was in the CL this season. Guardiola at City, Klopp at Liverpool, Emery at Villa, O'Neill at Wolves and Iraola at B'mouth are just a few recent examples of where managers can change teams. The players kick the ball but their conditioning, tactics/instruction and morale will dictate the level at which they do so. There has been notable improvement in all the aforementioned. To suggest they just suddenly and coincidentally found form a few games after a new manager arrived with a whole new approach and there is no parallel between the two is a notion which is deliberately choosing to ignore the evidence for this happening. All those 'hating' Hodgson need to give their heads a wobble however Glasner's arrival and impact has to be noted as it's clear to see. I've never seen a Palace team look so impressive and that's more than just a purple patch.
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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 25 Apr 24 3.37pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
I'm not going to nit-pick as we are both very happy so I will respectfully disagree with this point. Olise coming back has been important. The media focus on the 2 only starting 6 times and that has hurt us. However, other than that, OG is dealing with essentially the same side as RH. Last night no Doucoure, Lerma, Guehi, Johnston or Franca off the bench or Olise to start. And we were up against the form team, 8 places above us for a good reason, who thumped us 4-0 and who had 8 more days than us to prepare. Yet palace players described as "Championship at best" on this site were playing Champions League level. WHO ARE THEY? That is coaching. If we can keep our players, make a few sensible improvements and carry this form into next season, people will be talking about us as they are now talking about Villa. You said you disagree, but then you’re not really disagreeing Olise and Eze coming back has been important, but I do agree with all your points, it’s not the only factor, as I did state. As I said we seem sharper, more energy, we’re closing down and snapping in with the tackles, not letting teams have time on the ball and the likes of Andersen, JP, Hughes and Mitchell have seriously raised their games, as you say that’s all got to be down to coaching Edited by monkey (25 Apr 2024 3.38pm)
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