I will refer to the disastrous idea that you can take people from significantly different cultures, put them into a melting pot and 'teach' them or 'evolve' them or whatever verb someone wants....this guy wants them to be like him...a 'citizen of nowhere'....when in reality it's likely he feels that way precisely because of his own ethnicity.

It is an egalitarian idea...even social communism to an extent....it's an idea that has been tried for hundreds of years by genuine people who believe in it all over the world.....and we have the data in....It's a lie to suggest we don't know what happens.

Yet this falsehood gets repeated again and again....mostly by people who have chosen to live away from the very thing they are pushing or the young and naïve..or by those with an economic interest in pushing it.

Books were being written a hundred years ago about this....But you can ignore those books and just look at what happens on the ground, where people choose to live with who.

Ok, once again here is the reality.

Cultural integration depends upon several factors.

How similar someone is to the host culture....for example integration for someone from Poland is far easier than say from Somalia.
How big their ethnic 'community' is as this affects how much they feel the need to adapt.
How wealthy they are and hence how much they can 'filter' their experiences of diverse cultures by class and location.
What they are taught in schools and the media.

Practical results show that integration from minorities into host countries has at best a one in three success rate. This is much worse once a community size is large enough to support rejecting the need to adapt.

Because that's the point....Third worldism doesn't work and leads to the decline of nations.

The destruction and then utopian remodeling being the actual motivation.

It doesn't work and now this country and Europe in general.....I'll be long dead before it's over....has to go through the painful consequences and ultimately lessons of this idealism.

No one can say we didn't have people who didn't warn about it.

We were never asked.....this was lied about and forced and people demonised for natural responses to it.

However that one in three can be wonderful people and they would have been wonderful wherever they lived and benefited any nation. However the fact that there are good people within all groups isn't an argument for radically changing nations on mass. But obviously people like Calvin Robinson and Katharine Birbalsingh and many others come under this banner and would be great additions anywhere.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

That things are opposed doesn’t mean they aren’t necessary. It’s why we elect representatives and not delegates.

Japan has exactly the same problems as we and every other developed nation does. Why recognising this reality implies “worldism” is a very odd idea. Although the writer does hold many odd ideas.

The idea that the different geographical locations of both countries and the availability of willing immigrants makes no difference is another odd idea. It just does. As is that you can compare the situations post WW1 and post WW2. As ever for some people situations remain frozen in a time that they prefer. Reality isn’t frozen.

My wife’s best friend was born in Romania, has lived in the UK for 8 years but prior to that lived and worked in Japan for 20 years. She met and married a man from Bolivia whilst there, of Japanese ancestry, who was also working there. She speaks Japanese fluently. Neither of them were regarded as immigrants. They were regarded as visitors, but they were there a long time. He still is.

How typical this was I don’t know but it suggests that the idea that there are lies, damn lies and statistics might just be true. Many of those now arriving here to fill job vacancies have little or no intention of settling, especially now they are unable to bring family with them.

The idea that there is a single Asian ethnicity is as preposterous as the idea there is a “white” one.

Of course we took a political decision to allow controlled immigration to fill shortage occupations. That’s what we pay the politicians to do. Not to pander to the prejudices of those sections of our community who are blind to the need and fixated on keeping things as they remember them.

The advent of the age of AI is going to change things for sure but we need to prepare or be outpaced. Unless we can retrain our people and convince them that being made redundant doesn’t hold any stigma things won’t go smoothly or quickly reduce the need for immigration. You don’t turn clerks into doctors overnight.

I expect to visit Japan for a couple of weeks in November this year, so I’ll be able to form some direct impressions then of how it actually compares.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Japan has less than 0.2% muslims in their population.

They do not try any multiculturalism, it is a very safe, polite and orderly society.

We should be very jealous

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Religion has not been mentioned in this debate. Nor should it be. Behaviour is the only determinant and religion must be relegated to personal life. Anyone wishing to come here should be required to understand and accept that prior to being granted a visa. Then we should stop measuring it, to demonstrate how unimportant it is.

In my book those who place religion, of whatever flavour, above civic responsibility are not welcome in my country.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

On the few occasions that I need healthcare, sometimes I use the NHS, sometimes I use private providers. Where I live, those providing the care are overwhelmingly white English.

He certainly hindered the turning of blind eyes and the subsequent coverups.