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  georgenorman  26 Jan 24 7.06pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No he was of unsound mind, and his sick mind told him what to do. So diminished responsibility I think is correct. It's heart-breaking and unbearable I know, and the opportunities not taken must be investigated for the future. We don't want a society where people are put to death in barbaric fashion out of revenge like Alabama. Don't forget they have occasionally been wrong. Far more people have been killed by released murderers reoffending than by the execution of innocent people.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 26 Jan 24 7.19pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Far more people have been killed by released murderers reoffending than by the execution of innocent people. far more people have been killed by known family, friends & business associates,....... than ever by some random anonymous nutter with a machete.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 26 Jan 24 7.38pm |
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I was thinking that torture and execution with this new method could not only spread to other southern states prisons, but into American society. Neither is it a deterrent, Alabama will continue to have a murder a day. Of course, we get outraged who wouldn't, but torture and murder by the state? No thanks.
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| georgenorman 26 Jan 24 10.01pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I was thinking that torture and execution with this new method could not only spread to other southern states prisons, but into American society. Neither is it a deterrent, Alabama will continue to have a murder a day. Of course, we get outraged who wouldn't, but torture and murder by the state? No thanks. Yet you are a great admirer of Soviet Russia.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 27 Jan 24 1.59am |
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Capital punishment ensures no repeat offence. If nitrogen is deemed cruel to use on a piece of murdering s*** then shoot him.
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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| Stirlingsays 27 Jan 24 2.26am |
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No one should have to pay to keep this slime alive.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Jan 24 2.29am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No he was of unsound mind, and his sick mind told him what to do. So diminished responsibility I think is correct. It's heart-breaking and unbearable I know, and the opportunities not taken must be investigated for the future. We don't want a society where people are put to death in barbaric fashion out of revenge like Alabama. Don't forget they have occasionally been wrong. Japan get around that by restricting execution to certainties.....not convictions based upon probability. As this guy is on camera murdering people I'm more than happy for justice to be fast tracked.
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| dreamwaverider London 27 Jan 24 6.37am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No he was of unsound mind, and his sick mind told him what to do. So diminished responsibility I think is correct. It's heart-breaking and unbearable I know, and the opportunities not taken must be investigated for the future. We don't want a society where people are put to death in barbaric fashion out of revenge like Alabama. Don't forget they have occasionally been wrong. Who is 'We' ??
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| Phil’s Barber Crowborough 27 Jan 24 7.57am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Japan get around that by restricting execution to certainties.....not convictions based upon probability. As this guy is on camera murdering people I'm more than happy for justice to be fast tracked. I totally agree in such circumstances.
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| Eaglehamster Storrington 27 Jan 24 8.17am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No he was of unsound mind, and his sick mind told him what to do. So diminished responsibility I think is correct. It's heart-breaking and unbearable I know, and the opportunities not taken must be investigated for the future. Don't forget they have occasionally been wrong. Nor do I. The problem is he is a hazard to everyone around him. So how are they protected? Keep him bound or drugged up? A painless death would surely be preferable to everyone including him.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 27 Jan 24 9.14am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Japan get around that by restricting execution to certainties.....not convictions based upon probability. As this guy is on camera murdering people I'm more than happy for justice to be fast tracked. Japan is an extremely measured society, crime is low and reoffending rates also low. They execute certain guilt for barbaric crimes. In the UK if there was a referendum and the result was affirmative parliament would never pass the legislation as MP's don't feel a need to do what their electors want as the electoral system doesn't give them enough incentive to do other than act or their own desires. The Swiss system is half way there but is only reactive to legislation already in effect Meantime we have people who do the most terrible things and then live out their lives at considerable expense to the taxpayer. Who could not support death for things like the killing of Lee Rigby. Last yougov poll was 50% against, 40% pro and 10% unsure in 2022 Don't confuse revenge with accountability Edited by HKOwen (27 Jan 2024 9.16am) Edited by HKOwen (27 Jan 2024 9.17am)
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 27 Jan 24 12.43pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Who could not support death for things like the killing of Lee Rigby.
Edited by HKOwen (27 Jan 2024 9.17am) Lots of Marxists would object, 'cos you is a racist' did one of the Lee Rigby killers give a speech at a 'Hope not hate' rally ? we have a photograph below of him participating at one of their rallies.
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