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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 May 23 11.04pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Give it time and you'll see it. Without a connection, only those with particular agendas will see things that don't exist. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 26 May 23 11.04pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Give it time and you'll see it.

Without a connection, only those with particular agendas will see things that don't exist.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 May 23 11.16pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly I'm joining the caravan to Cornwall. That fantasy land devoid of reality,....and immigrants. And Cornwall seems to be OK Edited by Forest Hillbilly (26 May 2023 5.27pm) It's you who seems to have the fantasy. The NHS here would cease to function without immigrants in just about every clinical area. The farms depend on immigrant seasonal labour to get many things picked. Fishing boats use immigrants and so do the fish processing factories. We have a large tourist industry here, which whilst functioning all year round is much busier from now to mid-September. Where does the extra labour for that peak come from? Some are students, but not all. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 26 May 23 11.16pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I'm joining the caravan to Cornwall. That fantasy land devoid of reality,....and immigrants. And Cornwall seems to be OK

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (26 May 2023 5.27pm)

It's you who seems to have the fantasy.

The NHS here would cease to function without immigrants in just about every clinical area.

The farms depend on immigrant seasonal labour to get many things picked.

Fishing boats use immigrants and so do the fish processing factories.

We have a large tourist industry here, which whilst functioning all year round is much busier from now to mid-September. Where does the extra labour for that peak come from? Some are students, but not all.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 May 23 11.22pm
Originally posted by HKOwen Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle If true, so what? Most brains work wherever you live. There are exceptions though. In fact, things are changing rapidly locally, especially in Truro where there is a noticeable inflow of Asian and African immigrants since Brexit. ============================ How do you know they are recent immigrants, or African or Asian for that matter. They may well be UK citizens? Surely not making assumptions about people based on their appearance? As most work at our local hospital, which is where my wife also works I know from where they are being recruited. There seems to be a trend of people arriving here on a fixed-term contract and then being lured away to one of the big cities by higher wages. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 26 May 23 11.22pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If true, so what? Most brains work wherever you live. There are exceptions though.

In fact, things are changing rapidly locally, especially in Truro where there is a noticeable inflow of Asian and African immigrants since Brexit.
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How do you know they are recent immigrants, or African or Asian for that matter. They may well be UK citizens?

Surely not making assumptions about people based on their appearance?

As most work at our local hospital, which is where my wife also works I know from where they are being recruited. There seems to be a trend of people arriving here on a fixed-term contract and then being lured away to one of the big cities by higher wages.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Sir James Hird Mount Martha 27 May 23 12.33am
OKguysa different slant on migration. In a poll done here recently. the most migrants coming to live here came from the UK I would say if you deduct them from your intake plus those migrating to say Canada, New Zealand, US etc. It balances out.
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Sir James Hird

Mount Martha 27 May 23 12.33am

OKguysa different slant on migration.
In a poll done here recently. the most migrants coming to live here came from the UK
I would say if you deduct them from your intake plus those migrating to say Canada, New Zealand, US etc. It balances out.

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dreamwaverider London 27 May 23 3.56am
Originally posted by Sir James Hird OKguysa different slant on migration. In a poll done here recently. the most migrants coming to live here came from the UK I would say if you deduct them from your intake plus those migrating to say Canada, New Zealand, US etc. It balances out. Please note, most numbers quoted here are net. Eg after deducting emigration. Even then I would suggest the true incoming numbers are way higher than anything being suggested and have been for decades. One of the worlds biggest issues is too many people. However, most people fall for the fallacy that this country will collapse without more people. Total delusion.
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Originally posted by Sir James Hird

Please note, most numbers quoted here are net. Eg after deducting emigration. Even then I would suggest the true incoming numbers are way higher than anything being suggested and have been for decades. One of the worlds biggest issues is too many people. However, most people fall for the fallacy that this country will collapse without more people. Total delusion.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 May 23 9.15am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider Please note, most numbers quoted here are net. Eg after deducting emigration. Even then I would suggest the true incoming numbers are way higher than anything being suggested and have been for decades. One of the worlds biggest issues is too many people. However, most people fall for the fallacy that this country will collapse without more people. Total delusion. It's not a delusion. It's a fact, although collapse is probably too strong. It would severely impact our ability to maintain our standard of life. This issue has been recognised for at least 50 years. It was being discussed and prepared for in a business I worked in back then. We knew life expectancy was rapidly increasing and whilst the retirement age would have to be postponed somewhat this would never be enough. We faced a future of a long active retirement and a declining birthrate as more women would need to work. Some spoke of a leisure revolution in which automation would replace the tedious jobs, but many jobs cannot be automated. We knew back then that we were going to face a future with a higher number of non-working people, requiring significant healthcare support and a smaller and declining pool of working-age people. All whilst living standards were expected to rise rapidly. Finding more working-age people was, and still is, the only answer. How we handle that socially is another issue. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 27 May 23 9.15am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

It's not a delusion. It's a fact, although collapse is probably too strong. It would severely impact our ability to maintain our standard of life.

This issue has been recognised for at least 50 years. It was being discussed and prepared for in a business I worked in back then. We knew life expectancy was rapidly increasing and whilst the retirement age would have to be postponed somewhat this would never be enough. We faced a future of a long active retirement and a declining birthrate as more women would need to work. Some spoke of a leisure revolution in which automation would replace the tedious jobs, but many jobs cannot be automated.

We knew back then that we were going to face a future with a higher number of non-working people, requiring significant healthcare support and a smaller and declining pool of working-age people. All whilst living standards were expected to rise rapidly.

Finding more working-age people was, and still is, the only answer. How we handle that socially is another issue.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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The groover Danbury 27 May 23 9.18am
Its a balancing act, need V worker availability. The reason for Brexit was that it was an open door policy with no control at all. A few years ago I had a chat with a traveller in a restaurant, just after he informed me that he was a traveller but that they would not kick off in there as they like the restaurant and don't want to get banned...... Gulp! He told me that they used to do a lot of the crop picking as they travelled around. They all had different farms that they would roll up at when they knew that the crops were due. Then one season none of the farms wanted them. Said they had 'cheaper pickers from the EU'. You reap what you sow as they say. Stopping Student families coming over is a good start. Will also weed out the fake students. I think the next set of figures will see a drop below the curve as this time was an anomaly.
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Danbury 27 May 23 9.18am

Its a balancing act, need V worker availability.

The reason for Brexit was that it was an open door policy with no control at all.

A few years ago I had a chat with a traveller in a restaurant, just after he informed me that he was a traveller but that they would not kick off in there as they like the restaurant and don't want to get banned...... Gulp!

He told me that they used to do a lot of the crop picking as they travelled around. They all had different farms that they would roll up at when they knew that the crops were due. Then one season none of the farms wanted them. Said they had 'cheaper pickers from the EU'.

You reap what you sow as they say.

Stopping Student families coming over is a good start. Will also weed out the fake students.

I think the next set of figures will see a drop below the curve as this time was an anomaly.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 27 May 23 9.36am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger with overwhelming evidence of our divided crumbling society all around you. just look at the photos & video footage of the past, even only a few decades ago. And ask yourself why you talk slowly to the staff at every coffee-shop or newsagent these days. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

with overwhelming evidence of our divided crumbling society all around you.

just look at the photos & video footage of the past, even only a few decades ago. And ask yourself why you talk slowly to the staff at every coffee-shop or newsagent these days.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Teddy Eagle 27 May 23 10.22am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle It's not a delusion. It's a fact, although collapse is probably too strong. It would severely impact our ability to maintain our standard of life. This issue has been recognised for at least 50 years. It was being discussed and prepared for in a business I worked in back then. We knew life expectancy was rapidly increasing and whilst the retirement age would have to be postponed somewhat this would never be enough. We faced a future of a long active retirement and a declining birthrate as more women would need to work. Some spoke of a leisure revolution in which automation would replace the tedious jobs, but many jobs cannot be automated. We knew back then that we were going to face a future with a higher number of non-working people, requiring significant healthcare support and a smaller and declining pool of working-age people. All whilst living standards were expected to rise rapidly. Finding more working-age people was, and still is, the only answer. How we handle that socially is another issue. No candidates among the projected 5% unemployed in a couple of years then.
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Teddy Eagle

27 May 23 10.22am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's not a delusion. It's a fact, although collapse is probably too strong. It would severely impact our ability to maintain our standard of life.

Finding more working-age people was, and still is, the only answer. How we handle that socially is another issue.

No candidates among the projected 5% unemployed in a couple of years then.

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Teddy Eagle 27 May 23 10.23am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Without a connection, only those with particular agendas will see things that don't exist. What agenda?
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Teddy Eagle

27 May 23 10.23am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Without a connection, only those with particular agendas will see things that don't exist.

What agenda?

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georgenorman 27 May 23 11.22am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle It's you who seems to have the fantasy. The NHS here would cease to function without immigrants in just about every clinical area. The farms depend on immigrant seasonal labour to get many things picked. Fishing boats use immigrants and so do the fish processing factories. We have a large tourist industry here, which whilst functioning all year round is much busier from now to mid-September. Where does the extra labour for that peak come from? Some are students, but not all. You try to paint this picture of a diverse multi-cultural Cornwall, yet the 2021 census shows that 93.6% of the Cornish population are "White (Cornish/English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern Ireland/British)"
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georgenorman

27 May 23 11.22am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's you who seems to have the fantasy.

The NHS here would cease to function without immigrants in just about every clinical area.

The farms depend on immigrant seasonal labour to get many things picked.

Fishing boats use immigrants and so do the fish processing factories.

You try to paint this picture of a diverse multi-cultural Cornwall, yet the 2021 census shows that 93.6% of the Cornish population are "White (Cornish/English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern Ireland/British)"

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Sir James Hird Mount Martha 27 May 23 1.10pm
OKguysa different slant on migration. In a poll done here recently. the most migrants coming to live here came from the UK I would say if you deduct them from your intake plus those migrating to say Canada, New Zealand, US etc. It balances out.
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Sir James Hird

Mount Martha 27 May 23 1.10pm

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