That has been obvious for sometime.

Anyone for Dyche??
We have just lost to the bottom club and P.V. appears clueless to address the slide.

Wow, you really did see a different match to me. You sure it was Palace you were watching ;-) Doesn’t matter that Saints fans were booing them, we were just as bad and eventually worse than them. Two awful teams that will go down unless drastic changes are made by each club :-(

At one-nil up Ayew conspired to hit the bar from five-yards after a beautiful passage of play and the commentator was eulogising about how well we were playing. Up until the freaky JWP goal we'd completely contained Saints and it looked like we'd win comfortably. Second half we weren't as good and struggled to create much and then Guiata gifted them the win. I didn't say we played well, I just said we weren't awful, in my opinion. Ward and Ayew were really bad today though, pointing again at the need for investment.

We've got some tough games coming up so there's no point in hanging about. Get the man a train ticket to Selhurst as soon as the strike is over.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

It's apparent that something has to change and soon. I suspect Vieira will eventually get the push, but the reality is however we bring in is going to struggle with this lot.
We had years of an ageing squad and though we had a good summer window in 2021, we have had two since which have been inadequate and it seems we will have another one which will be the same. Probably 5 out of McArthur, Luka, Riedeweld, Ayew, Tomkins, Ward and Clyne should have been replaced by now.
No point buying promising youngsters if they aren't going to get any game time. We needed players for now.
We have only one premier league quality midfielder (Hughes is a decent standby), both right backs are only back-ups at best, and we have ONE left back. Two forwards who are probably amongst the weakest in the league.
Yes we have Zaha, Eze and Olise but they are flair players and we lack leaders and hard workers.
The squad has more holes than a sieve.
Perhaps time to go down and start again.
The board doesn't want to back the manager and I can't think of any manager (Dyche included) who will get a tune out of the current squad without significant incomings.
Even if we stay up, it is going to need a £100million plus spent in the summer window to make us competitive.
We have been on a up for a decade. I suspect the Palace rollercoaster is about to descend.