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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 16 Feb 22 12.05pm | |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
Wilf has just said he is trying not to dribble anymore. Madness.
I suspect PV might be behind this remark in his attempt to persuade Wilf to be more of a team player by focussing more on identifying killer passes etc.
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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 16 Feb 22 1.29pm | |
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Originally posted by doombear
I suspect PV might be behind this remark in his attempt to persuade Wilf to be more of a team player by focussing more on identifying killer passes etc. Wilf has never been much of a passer so if he's not dribbling either what is he bringing to the game? Bit late to be learning a new skillset at 28, when there are likely better, younger, more natural passers coming through in the game
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CrazyBadger Ware 16 Feb 22 2.06pm | |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
Very odd comment, trying to do less of the thing you are good at?! But not a surprise seeing him play, and desire to be more direct. I suspect this stems from an agent saying telling him that the way to get bought by the big boys is to get his individual stats us. e.g. now taking pens Its such a massive shame as I don't think he is a better player now. Watching Saint-Maximin reminds me of the Zaha of old ...and that's why NUFC are never gonna buy him.
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babylonjohn St Leonards-on-Sea 16 Feb 22 2.14pm | |
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Originally posted by doombear
Vieira wants all the players to work as a team and not simply play to earn their individual kudos. It seems that Wilf has been told of the need to be more of a team player. The question is whether, after being the darling of Palace fans for so many years, and the 'main man' during the Hodgson era ('get it to Wilf and let him do his stuff' mentality seemed to be prominent), is Wilf able and willing to become a cog in a wheel so-to-speak? Vieira clearly wants Palace players to develop the Man City mentality of keeping the ball and probing until a colleague makes the killer run or move and give him the ball - let's not forget Vieira finished playing career at Citeh and started his coaching career there. If Wilf knuckles down as a team player during the remaining games of the season, then he has a future at Palace if he wants it. If he continues to go it alone and ignore players in better positions as he has often done this season then will the club try and move him on in the summer? For me, Wilf still has much to offer and I hope he buys into what Vieira wants from him, but it will require him to be less selfish. Edited by doombear (15 Feb 2022 12.26pm)
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babylonjohn St Leonards-on-Sea 16 Feb 22 2.21pm | |
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Originally posted by doombear
Vieira wants all the players to work as a team and not simply play to earn their individual kudos. It seems that Wilf has been told of the need to be more of a team player. The question is whether, after being the darling of Palace fans for so many years, and the 'main man' during the Hodgson era ('get it to Wilf and let him do his stuff' mentality seemed to be prominent), is Wilf able and willing to become a cog in a wheel so-to-speak? Vieira clearly wants Palace players to develop the Man City mentality of keeping the ball and probing until a colleague makes the killer run or move and give him the ball - let's not forget Vieira finished playing career at Citeh and started his coaching career there. If Wilf knuckles down as a team player during the remaining games of the season, then he has a future at Palace if he wants it. If he continues to go it alone and ignore players in better positions as he has often done this season then will the club try and move him on in the summer? For me, Wilf still has much to offer and I hope he buys into what Vieira wants from him, but it will require him to be less selfish. Edited by doombear (15 Feb 2022 12.26pm) I think he has changed his attacking style quite a lot recently and will often pass it back to Mitchel or whoever if he feels he cant get through on his own. I get more frustrated with Ayu who often gets in a good position but always goes for glory instead of putting it on a plate for a team mate
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Eaglehamster Storrington 16 Feb 22 5.03pm | |
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Originally posted by babylonjohn
I think he has changed his attacking style quite a lot recently and will often pass it back to Mitchel or whoever if he feels he cant get through on his own. I get more frustrated with Ayu who often gets in a good position but always goes for glory instead of putting it on a plate for a team mate Maybe he got put off the idea by passing to Benteke.
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aashman12 16 Feb 22 5.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Chubskip
Just read that PV has asked Wilf to be more consistent. I am wondering if it’s time to get him off the wage bill. He didn’t have a great AFCON and was his petulant self at times. He wasn’t first choice in at best an average Ivory Coast team and we seem to have moved on from being totally reliant on him anymore. I want to see the old Wilf more than anyone but wonder if he’s realised that the world no longer revolves around him. It appears he’s missed the big move he desired so much and how much of that is due to attitude rather than his ability. I would love to be proved wrong and he feeds me a sh:urger to choke on but I think we should consider letting him go now. Our younger players should be loving playing with him and not getting the death stare. JMO I'd get rid, he's nowhere near as productive as he was 3 years ago.
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Palace_Guard Kyiv 16 Feb 22 9.35pm | |
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his future position should be as a striker. possibly partnering Edouard up top.
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sprites Auckland 16 Feb 22 9.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglehamster
Maybe he got put off the idea by passing to Benteke. As opposed to all our other firing strikers, you mean? Easy to single out Tekkers though right.
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Palace in the Blood 16 Feb 22 10.19pm | |
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Originally posted by sprites
As opposed to all our other firing strikers, you mean? Easy to single out Tekkers though right. I agree with you I think Wilf is part of the reason why Benteke has scored so few goals in last few years. His strength is in the air and very rarely has Wilf provided those sorts of crossses. Wilf is not a striker his conversion rate on chances is far too poor. He is a winger and he needs to play to our central striker's strengths and put away the knock ons from the central striker.
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sprites Auckland 16 Feb 22 10.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Palace in the Blood
I agree with you I think Wilf is part of the reason why Benteke has scored so few goals in last few years. His strength is in the air and very rarely has Wilf provided those sorts of crossses. Wilf is not a striker his conversion rate on chances is far too poor. He is a winger and he needs to play to our central striker's strengths and put away the knock ons from the central striker. Thanks for that. Although as you'll have read above, I can't agree about your second point. I think he could be a striker. It's not as if any of our current strikers have much better conversion rates. At least if Wilf is through on goal, I feel like he will score. Which is more than I could say for the others. I just don't think he has the pace or crossing ability to be an out and out winger anymore. He basically said it himself.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Feb 22 11.33pm | |
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They might of course bid for Eze.
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