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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 16 Feb 22 12.05pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Wilf has just said he is trying not to dribble anymore. Madness.


Is it? Given the number of times he loses the ball these days when he tries to dribble, perhaps it's not so mad. However, if he gets a reputation for having stopped dribbling then the odd dribble attempt could be a useful weapon.

I suspect PV might be behind this remark in his attempt to persuade Wilf to be more of a team player by focussing more on identifying killer passes etc.

 

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Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 16 Feb 22 1.29pm Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Is it? Given the number of times he loses the ball these days when he tries to dribble, perhaps it's not so mad. However, if he gets a reputation for having stopped dribbling then the odd dribble attempt could be a useful weapon.

I suspect PV might be behind this remark in his attempt to persuade Wilf to be more of a team player by focussing more on identifying killer passes etc.

Wilf has never been much of a passer so if he's not dribbling either what is he bringing to the game? Bit late to be learning a new skillset at 28, when there are likely better, younger, more natural passers coming through in the game

 

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CrazyBadger Flag Ware 16 Feb 22 2.06pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Very odd comment, trying to do less of the thing you are good at?! But not a surprise seeing him play, and desire to be more direct.

I suspect this stems from an agent saying telling him that the way to get bought by the big boys is to get his individual stats us. e.g. now taking pens

Its such a massive shame as I don't think he is a better player now.

Watching Saint-Maximin reminds me of the Zaha of old

...and that's why NUFC are never gonna buy him.

 


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babylonjohn Flag St Leonards-on-Sea 16 Feb 22 2.14pm Send a Private Message to babylonjohn Add babylonjohn as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Vieira wants all the players to work as a team and not simply play to earn their individual kudos. It seems that Wilf has been told of the need to be more of a team player. The question is whether, after being the darling of Palace fans for so many years, and the 'main man' during the Hodgson era ('get it to Wilf and let him do his stuff' mentality seemed to be prominent), is Wilf able and willing to become a cog in a wheel so-to-speak?

Vieira clearly wants Palace players to develop the Man City mentality of keeping the ball and probing until a colleague makes the killer run or move and give him the ball - let's not forget Vieira finished playing career at Citeh and started his coaching career there.

If Wilf knuckles down as a team player during the remaining games of the season, then he has a future at Palace if he wants it. If he continues to go it alone and ignore players in better positions as he has often done this season then will the club try and move him on in the summer?

For me, Wilf still has much to offer and I hope he buys into what Vieira wants from him, but it will require him to be less selfish.

Edited by doombear (15 Feb 2022 12.26pm)

 

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babylonjohn Flag St Leonards-on-Sea 16 Feb 22 2.21pm Send a Private Message to babylonjohn Add babylonjohn as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Vieira wants all the players to work as a team and not simply play to earn their individual kudos. It seems that Wilf has been told of the need to be more of a team player. The question is whether, after being the darling of Palace fans for so many years, and the 'main man' during the Hodgson era ('get it to Wilf and let him do his stuff' mentality seemed to be prominent), is Wilf able and willing to become a cog in a wheel so-to-speak?

Vieira clearly wants Palace players to develop the Man City mentality of keeping the ball and probing until a colleague makes the killer run or move and give him the ball - let's not forget Vieira finished playing career at Citeh and started his coaching career there.

If Wilf knuckles down as a team player during the remaining games of the season, then he has a future at Palace if he wants it. If he continues to go it alone and ignore players in better positions as he has often done this season then will the club try and move him on in the summer?

For me, Wilf still has much to offer and I hope he buys into what Vieira wants from him, but it will require him to be less selfish.

Edited by doombear (15 Feb 2022 12.26pm)

I think he has changed his attacking style quite a lot recently and will often pass it back to Mitchel or whoever if he feels he cant get through on his own. I get more frustrated with Ayu who often gets in a good position but always goes for glory instead of putting it on a plate for a team mate

 

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Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 16 Feb 22 5.03pm Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

Originally posted by babylonjohn

I think he has changed his attacking style quite a lot recently and will often pass it back to Mitchel or whoever if he feels he cant get through on his own. I get more frustrated with Ayu who often gets in a good position but always goes for glory instead of putting it on a plate for a team mate

Maybe he got put off the idea by passing to Benteke.

 


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aashman12 Flag 16 Feb 22 5.53pm Send a Private Message to aashman12 Add aashman12 as a friend

Originally posted by Chubskip

Just read that PV has asked Wilf to be more consistent. I am wondering if it’s time to get him off the wage bill. He didn’t have a great AFCON and was his petulant self at times. He wasn’t first choice in at best an average Ivory Coast team and we seem to have moved on from being totally reliant on him anymore. I want to see the old Wilf more than anyone but wonder if he’s realised that the world no longer revolves around him. It appears he’s missed the big move he desired so much and how much of that is due to attitude rather than his ability. I would love to be proved wrong and he feeds me a sh:urger to choke on but I think we should consider letting him go now. Our younger players should be loving playing with him and not getting the death stare. JMO

I'd get rid, he's nowhere near as productive as he was 3 years ago.

 

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Palace_Guard Flag Kyiv 16 Feb 22 9.35pm Send a Private Message to Palace_Guard Add Palace_Guard as a friend

his future position should be as a striker. possibly partnering Edouard up top.

 


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sprites Flag Auckland 16 Feb 22 9.54pm Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglehamster

Maybe he got put off the idea by passing to Benteke.

As opposed to all our other firing strikers, you mean? Easy to single out Tekkers though right.

 

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Palace in the Blood Flag 16 Feb 22 10.19pm Send a Private Message to Palace in the Blood Add Palace in the Blood as a friend

Originally posted by sprites
As opposed to all our other firing strikers, you mean? Easy to single out Tekkers though right.

I agree with you I think Wilf is part of the reason why Benteke has scored so few goals in last few years. His strength is in the air and very rarely has Wilf provided those sorts of crossses.

Wilf is not a striker his conversion rate on chances is far too poor. He is a winger and he needs to play to our central striker's strengths and put away the knock ons from the central striker.

 

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sprites Flag Auckland 16 Feb 22 10.24pm Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by Palace in the Blood

I agree with you I think Wilf is part of the reason why Benteke has scored so few goals in last few years. His strength is in the air and very rarely has Wilf provided those sorts of crossses.

Wilf is not a striker his conversion rate on chances is far too poor. He is a winger and he needs to play to our central striker's strengths and put away the knock ons from the central striker.

Thanks for that. Although as you'll have read above, I can't agree about your second point. I think he could be a striker. It's not as if any of our current strikers have much better conversion rates. At least if Wilf is through on goal, I feel like he will score. Which is more than I could say for the others. I just don't think he has the pace or crossing ability to be an out and out winger anymore. He basically said it himself.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Feb 22 11.33pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger
...and that's why NUFC are never gonna buy him.

They might of course bid for Eze.

 

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