"the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents" [Orwell]

State what I posted that was inaccurate.....be specific.

I state again, there is footage of the doors of the building being opened to the crowd.

I state again, arguments suggesting that shooting that woman was justified are also arguments that support the idea that everyone who entered that building deserved to be shot.

I state again, the once again repeated contention that this protest was responsible for the death of a Policeman has been proven fallacious. He even texted to a relative before his heart attack that he was ok.

Once again, the accusation that this crowd were out for murder has been made here. However, it is dismissed by the fact....the actual fact that not one shot was fired by these protesters despite them being armed.

Yet you think I'm the one who is embarrassing? As for the BBC....what a joke, from the moment the Republicans took office they were hard to distinguish from CNN.

As for the suicide you mention, people commit suicide everyday, no doubt numerous people at that protest also have. To connect them to one event needs evidence and what evidence is there that they wouldn't have committed suicide regardless?

I will also make the point that currently the Democrats hold 37 people in solidary confinement for January 6th.

I don't see the Republicans winning in 2024 but if they do there will be plenty of people going to jail, I can assure you of that.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The MAGA wearing loons at Education Weekly report that there is no actual domestic terrorism at School board meetings.

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However, I have every faith the Biden administration can find some. Otherwise what? Defund the FBI?

Red and Blue Army!

The same posters who tie themselves in knots trying to justify the killing of George Floyd now want to take issue with a civilian being killed by the police, never mind the fact she was part of an armed mob smashing through doors and assaulting officers in a state building.

Can you imagine the response if a bunch of black kids broke into Parliament and started running round smashing stuff up... I'm sure you'd all declare them as non-violent and innocent and condemn police action against them.

How does the saying go..? "if they didn't have double standards they wouldn't have any"

For what it's worth, I obviously don't think this woman deserved to die, but she did far more to put herself at risk of that than George Floyd did - if you take issue with one and not the other, I'd ask yourself why.

Justify maybe the wrong word then, apologies, but I think the point still stands - there's so much appetite to quote George Floyd's previous convictions and generally attempt to normalise what happened (you even do it above referencing training manuals) - Floyd's killing is just objectively a much worst police decision, in a far lower-risk situation, yet you seemingly object far more strongly to the shooting at the Capitol.

I don't recall a violent, armed mob ever breaking into Parliament - if they did, and someone got shot, I wouldn't be even a little bit surprised.

I didn't claim they were 'out to murder' but at the best they were looking for trouble, at worst looking for violence - this was a long way from a non-violent or peaceful crowd - they might not have drawn for their guns but they did draw for bats, pieces of scaffolding and anything else they could get their hands on to inflict damage to people and property.

Switch around the President getting sworn in and you'd have been getting none of the same arguments made being made.