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HKOwen Hong Kong 01 Oct 21 12.40am
I 100% agree with this, in particular, the loss of the Scottish Westminster seats is crucial. Logically the hard left should split but at the end of the day, they do like their parliamentary salaries and perks they know they would lose if they formed a hard left party and ran for election. This way they can play student politics at the taxpayer's expense. Labour would be much more of a threat with more centrist MPs. The Corbynistas are now all/mostly in very safe seats that would be won by any Labour candidate. Originally posted by jeeagles Labour won't win a GE without Scotland. They would be foolish to allow another referendum, as if Scotland votes to leave, Labour will never win a GE again. I think you are more likely to see the hard-left create a new party (or several, Splitters!). It may take a much bigger rebrand that New Labour to get them credibility though. Perhaps a total name changes as the term "Labour" no longer reflects the jobs of the majority of working class people. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 01 Oct 21 12.40am

I 100% agree with this, in particular, the loss of the Scottish Westminster seats is crucial.

Logically the hard left should split but at the end of the day, they do like their parliamentary salaries and perks they know they would lose if they formed a hard left party and ran for election.

This way they can play student politics at the taxpayer's expense. Labour would be much more of a threat with more centrist MPs. The Corbynistas are now all/mostly in very safe seats that would be won by any Labour candidate.

Originally posted by jeeagles

Labour won't win a GE without Scotland. They would be foolish to allow another referendum, as if Scotland votes to leave, Labour will never win a GE again.

I think you are more likely to see the hard-left create a new party (or several, Splitters!).

It may take a much bigger rebrand that New Labour to get them credibility though. Perhaps a total name changes as the term "Labour" no longer reflects the jobs of the majority of working class people.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 01 Oct 21 1.02am
Originally posted by jeeagles Labour won't win a GE without Scotland. They would be foolish to allow another referendum, as if Scotland votes to leave, Labour will never win a GE again. I think you are more likely to see the hard-left create a new party (or several, Splitters!). It may take a much bigger rebrand that New Labour to get them credibility though. Perhaps a total name changes as the term "Labour" no longer reflects the jobs of the majority of working class people. It would need a bloody long new name. The London ex-grads, benefit claimants, work dodgers, celebrities, and immigrants required for votes party. Promoted by the bbc. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 01 Oct 21 1.02am

Originally posted by jeeagles

Labour won't win a GE without Scotland. They would be foolish to allow another referendum, as if Scotland votes to leave, Labour will never win a GE again.

I think you are more likely to see the hard-left create a new party (or several, Splitters!).

It may take a much bigger rebrand that New Labour to get them credibility though. Perhaps a total name changes as the term "Labour" no longer reflects the jobs of the majority of working class people.

It would need a bloody long new name. The London ex-grads, benefit claimants, work dodgers, celebrities, and immigrants required for votes party. Promoted by the bbc.

COYP

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Oct 21 10.26am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman It would need a bloody long new name. The London ex-grads, benefit claimants, work dodgers, celebrities, and immigrants required for votes party. Promoted by the bbc. That made me laugh and I was always a Labour voter. Not these days, for obvious reasons. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Oct 21 10.26am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

It would need a bloody long new name. The London ex-grads, benefit claimants, work dodgers, celebrities, and immigrants required for votes party. Promoted by the bbc.

That made me laugh and I was always a Labour voter. Not these days, for obvious reasons.

Red and Blue Army!

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