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The moaning about the lack of transfer activity thread
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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 15 Jul 19 2.13pm |
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Originally posted by palace99
Rudi - always one for a pedantic response. Operations in an accounting view is the standard income and outgoings. Transfers would be deemed an one off expenses so is not operational. By saying operationally we are fine means we can cover all standard outgoings with incomings i.e wages are covered by current revenue streams i.e we are not needing to sell players just to keep operating. This is clearly better than our championship days when we lost money operationally almost every season I know exactly what you mean and refer to as operations. Unfortunately football is very different and doesn’t survive on just revenue and usual costs without regular additions of players and the strategy and model of transfers and wages being in the equation. Look at clubs that go down or Arsenal. It’s usually because something has gone wrong in their squad dealings. transfers may be one offs compared to high volume items like tickets, corporate hospitality, merchandise or food and drink but they are significantly important and are main drivers that keep us in the division to make the operational benefits possible. Yes you are correct but this is football and being operationally sound is great on its own in the short term but that’s it, and even then you can still obviously get relegated. We could be on a tightrope again this season if this doesn’t end well. I still have confidence but how that’ll be soon we’ll see.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jul 19 2.45pm |
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Just to weigh in on this operational profit/ costs debate, I have always thought we lag behind many clubs. Some of the Championship clubs have better infrastructure than us and there are even non-league sides with far better catering for the fans.
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the despotic banana  Dept. of Baboon Maintenance 15 Jul 19 3.10pm |
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This season more than ever I think I'd have preferred the concrete certainty of some uninspiring but solid, make-up-the-numbers type signings sorted right at the start of the transfer window rather than another year of last minute, oh-sh*t-time-to-panic-and-scrape-the-barrel type signings right at the end of the window. Hey ho. 'Twas ever thus.
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| Tipp_Eagle Tipperary 15 Jul 19 3.14pm |
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Originally posted by palace99
Tipp in last years account total income was £150.3m. This is made up of gate receipts 10.9, sponsors 9.4, other commercial 5.8 and 'other' income of 3.0 with broadcasting being 121.1 So over 80% of our income is from Sky and other TV/radio revenue. Incidentally total wages were £117m Thanks for that. not much left over for transfers !
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| Tipp_Eagle Tipperary 15 Jul 19 3.22pm |
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Originally posted by Crystal_Clear
Seeing today that with Maguire off to Utd for 80m, Leicester are taking Lewis Dunk for 40m. That's all we need those pieces of driftwood on the coast having money to spend. They wont sod about and wait to the 11th hour of the transfer window. Makes my blood boil that does! everyone saying Wilfs not worth 80 mill, everytime he plays against Maguire he turns him inside out its nearly embarrassing . i know different positions but still. Oh yea ( she said no Lewis ,she said no) He was one of their better players last season , cant see them doing much with 40 mill . w***ers!
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Jul 19 3.27pm |
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Originally posted by the despotic banana
This season more than ever I think I'd have preferred the concrete certainty of some uninspiring but solid, make-up-the-numbers type signings sorted right at the start of the transfer window rather than another year of last minute, oh-sh*t-time-to-panic-and-scrape-the-barrel type signings right at the end of the window. Hey ho. 'Twas ever thus. Seconded entirely. I know it is wishful thinking to hope this might be the case but not so once again. I don't think many of us hold out for the 'Palace sign Messi' headline, but I think a genuine cause for concern is that we have had outgoing players with none coming in (including our best consistent performer last season). If we struggle most seasons, I can see this one being worse than ever. I would much rather 4,5-6 steadyish, squad boosting/solidifying signings then 1 or 2 'bigger' signings I have to say. I'm (hopefully) obviously not saying it's a choice of those two, we may have no choices at all for all I know. I tend not to believe that though and am trying not to be too pessimistic but a bit like others who have posted, that deadline day deal for nobody feeling is looming and not sitting well with me. Currently, my biggest hopes for next season seem to hinge on Max Meyer shining, Benteke coming back and Zaha staying and doing his usual!
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| PatrickA London 15 Jul 19 4.25pm |
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Dunk could be sold at £45 million which is more than Arsenal apparently valued Zaha!
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| braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 15 Jul 19 5.10pm |
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Originally posted by the despotic banana
This season more than ever I think I'd have preferred the concrete certainty of some uninspiring but solid, make-up-the-numbers type signings sorted right at the start of the transfer window rather than another year of last minute, oh-sh*t-time-to-panic-and-scrape-the-barrel type signings right at the end of the window. Hey ho. 'Twas ever thus. i get what your saying but we dont really need any “make up the numbers signings” they would just be signings to appease fans with no patience and thats not a good way to go. IMO if course, we should only be making signings this summer if they directly improve the starting 11.
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| the despotic banana Dept. of Baboon Maintenance 15 Jul 19 5.42pm |
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle
i get what your saying but we dont really need any “make up the numbers signings” they would just be signings to appease fans with no patience and thats not a good way to go. Yeah, I don't think I was clear enough: I meant that I can see us scratching around at the end of the window for players of this ilk anyway, so in that case I'd prefer it if we at least signed them early so they had pre-season with us.
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| midlandspalace kidderminster 15 Jul 19 5.56pm |
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Thank goodness I am abroad and can only read this board every two or three days. It is absolutely the most depressing place to be, with so many supposed fans keen to spend someone else's money on anyone and everyone. If the club was run by many of the regular posters on here we would be in the same condition as Bolton right now.
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Jul 19 6.31pm |
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Originally posted by midlandspalace
Thank goodness I am abroad and can only read this board every two or three days. It is absolutely the most depressing place to be, with so many supposed fans keen to spend someone else's money on anyone and everyone. If the club was run by many of the regular posters on here we would be in the same condition as Bolton right now. 🙄
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cryrst  The garden of England 15 Jul 19 8.14pm |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
Dunk could be sold at £45 million which is more than Arsenal apparently valued Zaha! To join the other six nail biting seasons.
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