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Stirlingsays 06 Mar 19 8.10pm
The actual solutions to this are too expensive both fiscally and socially for our politicians to touch with a barge pole. So the best advice for those troubled by the idea of your teenagers and women living near gangs is to leave as soon as practically possible....leave the area. You aren't considered important, far more resources and concerns will always been aimed at the problem rather than the people who aren't causing problems....they will aim the resources but they won't really solve the problem. I've been saying for some time what the reality for this country is and it's increasing balkanization. Like in most things we will follow how America is going and that same conclusion is already happening here. We can look at things like race, gang culture, poverty and all these things because while they are all factors at the end of the day it really comes down to decent people and those that are lost. I only feel sorry for the decent people who don't have means to ever move and who are stuck in these areas. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Mar 2019 8.16pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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06 Mar 19 8.10pm

The actual solutions to this are too expensive both fiscally and socially for our politicians to touch with a barge pole.

So the best advice for those troubled by the idea of your teenagers and women living near gangs is to leave as soon as practically possible....leave the area.

You aren't considered important, far more resources and concerns will always been aimed at the problem rather than the people who aren't causing problems....they will aim the resources but they won't really solve the problem.

I've been saying for some time what the reality for this country is and it's increasing balkanization. Like in most things we will follow how America is going and that same conclusion is already happening here.

We can look at things like race, gang culture, poverty and all these things because while they are all factors at the end of the day it really comes down to decent people and those that are lost.

I only feel sorry for the decent people who don't have means to ever move and who are stuck in these areas.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Mar 2019 8.16pm)

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.TUX. 06 Mar 19 8.16pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle It’s estimated there is one CCTV camera per 14 people in London so they don’t appear to be the answer. The police have sufficient resource to investigate hate crime - maybe they could dedicate less time to that. Ooh, another 'agenda' maybe? Buy Litecoin.
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06 Mar 19 8.16pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It’s estimated there is one CCTV camera per 14 people in London so they don’t appear to be the answer.
The police have sufficient resource to investigate hate crime - maybe they could dedicate less time to that.

Ooh, another 'agenda' maybe?

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.TUX. 06 Mar 19 8.20pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays The actual solutions to this are too expensive both fiscally and socially for our politicians to touch with a barge pole. So the best advice for those troubled by the idea of your teenagers and women living near gangs is to leave as soon as practically possible....leave the area. You aren't considered important, far more resources and concerns will always been aimed at the problem rather than the people who aren't causing problems....they will aim the resources but they won't really solve the problem. I've been saying for some time what the reality for this country is and it's increasing balkanization. Like in most things we will follow how America is going and that same conclusion is already happening here. We can look at things like race, gang culture, poverty and all these things because while they are all factors at the end of the day it really comes down to decent people and those that are lost. I only feel sorry for the decent people who don't have means to ever move and who are stuck in these areas. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Mar 2019 8.16pm) Four words that says all you need to know. Sadly the majority continually to ignore this fact. Buy Litecoin.
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06 Mar 19 8.20pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The actual solutions to this are too expensive both fiscally and socially for our politicians to touch with a barge pole.

So the best advice for those troubled by the idea of your teenagers and women living near gangs is to leave as soon as practically possible....leave the area.

You aren't considered important, far more resources and concerns will always been aimed at the problem rather than the people who aren't causing problems....they will aim the resources but they won't really solve the problem.

We can look at things like race, gang culture, poverty and all these things because while they are all factors at the end of the day it really comes down to decent people and those that are lost.

I only feel sorry for the decent people who don't have means to ever move and who are stuck in these areas.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Mar 2019 8.16pm)

Four words that says all you need to know.
Sadly the majority continually to ignore this fact.

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Pussay Patrol 06 Mar 19 8.22pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The more sensible question is whether a load more police would be cost effective in terms of results. It might be that technology is a better way of controlling crime where it can be controlled. The other problem is that the system often ties the hands of the police as does the obsession with appearing to be politically correct. I seriously doubt that spending taxpayers money on a load more rookie coppers will actually get the results we all want. This is just the usual bash the Tories bulls*** that the left always employs despite a left wing government never dealing with law and order in a measurably better way. Maybe we should cut police by another 20,000? Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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06 Mar 19 8.22pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The more sensible question is whether a load more police would be cost effective in terms of results.

It might be that technology is a better way of controlling crime where it can be controlled. The other problem is that the system often ties the hands of the police as does the obsession with appearing to be politically correct.
I seriously doubt that spending taxpayers money on a load more rookie coppers will actually get the results we all want.
This is just the usual bash the Tories bulls*** that the left always employs despite a left wing government never dealing with law and order in a measurably better way.

Maybe we should cut police by another 20,000?

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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cryrst The garden of England 06 Mar 19 8.30pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Maybe we should cut police by another 20,000? Clearly it struck a chord and all you can do is act like a male apendage. Socialism is coming to holland before the uk. Enjoy wont you!
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The garden of England 06 Mar 19 8.30pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Maybe we should cut police by another 20,000?

Clearly it struck a chord and all you can do is act like a male apendage.
Socialism is coming to holland before the uk.
Enjoy wont you!

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jeeagles 06 Mar 19 8.45pm
I've lived in a place with no crime and lived in places with loads of crime. I don't think it's to do with poverty. It's to do with people's attitude. If people start to realise that there are no excuses then we might progress. Criminals are not the victim. Locking them up and taking them off the streets works. ... As far as I'm concerned, hang the tickets and spend government money on good people struggling to make their way in life instead.... call it positive reinforcement. Edited by jeeagles (06 Mar 2019 8.47pm)
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06 Mar 19 8.45pm

I've lived in a place with no crime and lived in places with loads of crime.

I don't think it's to do with poverty.
It's to do with people's attitude.

If people start to realise that there are no excuses then we might progress.

Criminals are not the victim. Locking them up and taking them off the streets works.

... As far as I'm concerned, hang the tickets and spend government money on good people struggling to make their way in life instead.... call it positive reinforcement.

Edited by jeeagles (06 Mar 2019 8.47pm)

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Teddy Eagle 06 Mar 19 8.55pm
Originally posted by .TUX. Ooh, another 'agenda' maybe? None whatsoever beyond establishing which categories constitute non-hate crimes. Those that leave the victim feeling refreshed, reinvigorated and altogether happier for the experience.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 06 Mar 19 9.43pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Had a look on the BBS to see what their more liberal view was. Surprised to see just one reply to the OP. Maybe they can’t bring themselves to discuss the real reasons and causes of this illness, just like the politicians they share so much in common with. Turn the other cheek. You don’t have to face up to reality or oppose your beliefs. it is shameful that 'That website' claims to represent our beloved football club. i echo the sentiments of another poster above who finally gave up and left London after decades here. Its too much grief for anybody looking for a quiet life. knife crime is probably going to get worse before we see any concerted push to fix the problem. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Had a look on the BBS to see what their more liberal view was. Surprised to see just one reply to the OP. Maybe they can’t bring themselves to discuss the real reasons and causes of this illness, just like the politicians they share so much in common with. Turn the other cheek. You don’t have to face up to reality or oppose your beliefs.

it is shameful that 'That website' claims to represent our beloved football club.

i echo the sentiments of another poster above who finally gave up and left London after decades here. Its too much grief for anybody looking for a quiet life.

knife crime is probably going to get worse before we see any concerted push to fix the problem.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Stirlingsays 06 Mar 19 9.56pm
Originally posted by .TUX. Four words that says all you need to know. Sadly the majority continually to ignore this fact. Yep, I know you're referring to the state and finance systems but it's also a truism in life generally as plenty of us know. What a lot of youngsters don't get told in life and have to find out the hard way is that your intrinsic value to others is only to be found in what you can offer within society. Instead they get fed a lot of warm words by well meaning but ideological people and have this notion that they are entitled to a good life. It results in a generation of people with higher expectations than their reality could provide who end up bitter and frustrated. Youngsters need sensible people around them in their formative years. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Mar 2019 9.58pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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06 Mar 19 9.56pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Four words that says all you need to know.
Sadly the majority continually to ignore this fact.

Yep, I know you're referring to the state and finance systems but it's also a truism in life generally as plenty of us know.

What a lot of youngsters don't get told in life and have to find out the hard way is that your intrinsic value to others is only to be found in what you can offer within society.

Instead they get fed a lot of warm words by well meaning but ideological people and have this notion that they are entitled to a good life.

It results in a generation of people with higher expectations than their reality could provide who end up bitter and frustrated.

Youngsters need sensible people around them in their formative years.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Mar 2019 9.58pm)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Mar 19 10.06pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle It’s estimated there is one CCTV camera per 14 people in London so they don’t appear to be the answer. The police have sufficient resource to investigate hate crime - maybe they could dedicate less time to that. These incidents don’t happen on the high street. COYP
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Caterham 06 Mar 19 10.06pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It’s estimated there is one CCTV camera per 14 people in London so they don’t appear to be the answer.
The police have sufficient resource to investigate hate crime - maybe they could dedicate less time to that.

These incidents don’t happen on the high street.

COYP

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Teddy Eagle 06 Mar 19 10.31pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman These incidents don’t happen on the high street. Not yet. Other crimes do though regardless of how many cameras there are.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Mar 19 10.37pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Originally posted by Rudi Hedman These incidents don’t happen on the high street. Not yet. Other crimes do though regardless of how many cameras there are. These youngsters committing crime on the high street are usually wearing helmets on scooters, although the Somalians only wear bandanas. I know there’s other crime like pick pocketing but in crowded places it’s fiffic to spot or get on camera. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 06 Mar 19 10.37pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

These incidents don’t happen on the high street.

Not yet. Other crimes do though regardless of how many cameras there are.

These youngsters committing crime on the high street are usually wearing helmets on scooters, although the Somalians only wear bandanas.

I know there’s other crime like pick pocketing but in crowded places it’s fiffic to spot or get on camera.

COYP

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