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silvertop Portishead 30 Sep 18 8.27am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Since you didn’t answer me I shall tell you. Nothing. She was a 15 year old girl. She had drunk no alcohol. There is nothing like victim blaming, eh? I said HE was probably smashed.
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Mapletree Croydon 30 Sep 18 8.44am | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
I said HE was probably smashed. Ah, so you did. My apologies. I imagine between Kavanaugh and Judge they would have a fair idea. Unless it was just so unremarkable in their teenage lives. Edited by Mapletree (30 Sep 2018 8.48am)
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Stirlingsays 30 Sep 18 10.25am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Since you didn’t answer me I shall tell you. Nothing. She was a 15 year old girl. She had drunk no alcohol. There is nothing like victim blaming, eh? Excuse me, but how the hell do you know she'd drunk no alcohol?
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 30 Sep 18 1.09pm | |
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Mapletree Croydon 30 Sep 18 1.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Excuse me, but how the hell do you know she'd drunk no alcohol? You are excused Read the transcripts
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cryrst The garden of England 30 Sep 18 4.23pm | |
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Yup
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npn Crowborough 30 Sep 18 4.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I would add to that maybe she genuinely believes she is telling the truth. Maybe the incident happened as described, maybe it was just a minor teenage tussle that her memory has exaggerated. Maybe she is combining 2 incidents people together etc. I do believe that something happened and quite possibly he was the involved. I also believe that this is being politically manipulated if not be her by others. Edited by Badger11 (29 Sep 2018 10.09am) This is the whole thing in a nutshell. He comes across as a bit off a wrong 'un, she comes across quite genuine, but there is absolutely no way you can be sure what happened all those years ago, and that doesn't necessarily imply anyone is lying - they may both genuinely believe their version of events. The tough part it's what you do about it : do you bar the guy from this job because he may have done something, or treat him as innocent until proven guilty, and that's what i don't know
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silvertop Portishead 30 Sep 18 4.46pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Yup By him or her? Or both? Or neither?
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Mapletree Croydon 30 Sep 18 4.49pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Yup Gosh, really? Now why didn’t I think of that? Or indeed Kavanaugh and his advisors?
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 30 Sep 18 4.57pm | |
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Originally posted by npn
This is the whole thing in a nutshell. He comes across as a bit off a wrong 'un, she comes across quite genuine, but there is absolutely no way you can be sure what happened all those years ago, and that doesn't necessarily imply anyone is lying - they may both genuinely believe their version of events. "A wrong 'un"? The committee hearing deduced he got drunk at high school parties and joked with his friends about farting. Quote
The tough part it's what you do about it : do you bar the guy from this job because he may have done something, or treat him as innocent until proven guilty, and that's what i don't know It's quite obvious: people are innocent until proven guilty.
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Stirlingsays 30 Sep 18 6.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Gosh, really? Now why didn’t I think of that? Or indeed Kavanaugh and his advisors?
So the mockery is on you. To speak with any certainty about any of this is plainly ridiculous.
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Mapletree Croydon 30 Sep 18 7.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
So the mockery is on you. To speak with any certainty about any of this is plainly ridiculous. Does a tree falling in a forest make a sound if nobody is there to hear it? Nobody has challenged the assertion. I would say beyond reasonable doubt. You did watch all of the questioning I assume? If there was any chance she had been drinking that would have been too big an opportunity for Kavanaugh to overlook. In any case please explain this clever mockery of which you speak Like I said, victim blaming. On a naive 15 year old girl. Deeply shameful. Edited by Mapletree (30 Sep 2018 7.47pm)
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