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 Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 Apr 18 10.57pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
We can maintain a healthy cynicism over what we’re told, believe the opposite and still be in with a chance of having called it right.[/q Rasputin Edited by Jimenez (08 Apr 2018 10.58pm)
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.TUX.  08 Apr 18 11.11pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
LBC are reporting that if exposure is through skin contact the effects are not as immediate as inhalation and that is why the treatment appears to be working. Just one of countless other views...... Former British intelligence officer, former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, and Rector (i.e. Chancellor) of the University of Dundee Craig Murray writes: But if it was on the doorknob, the last contact they could possibly have had with the nerve agent was a full three hours before it took effect. Not only that, they were well enough to drive, to walk around a shopping centre, visit a pub, and then – and this is the truly unbelievable bit – their central nervous systems felt in such good fettle, and their digestive systems so in balance, they were able to sit down and eat a full restaurant meal. Only after all that were they – both at precisely the same time despite their substantially different weights – suddenly struck down by the nerve agent, which went from no effects at all, to deadly, on an alarm clock basis. This narrative simply is not remotely credible. Nerve agents – above all “military grade nerve agents” – were designed as battlefield weapons. They do not leave opponents fighting fit for hours. There is no description in the scientific literature of a nerve agent having this extraordinary time bomb effect.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 08 Apr 18 11.20pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Just one of countless other views...... Former British intelligence officer, former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, and Rector (i.e. Chancellor) of the University of Dundee Craig Murray writes: But if it was on the doorknob, the last contact they could possibly have had with the nerve agent was a full three hours before it took effect. Not only that, they were well enough to drive, to walk around a shopping centre, visit a pub, and then – and this is the truly unbelievable bit – their central nervous systems felt in such good fettle, and their digestive systems so in balance, they were able to sit down and eat a full restaurant meal. Only after all that were they – both at precisely the same time despite their substantially different weights – suddenly struck down by the nerve agent, which went from no effects at all, to deadly, on an alarm clock basis. This narrative simply is not remotely credible. Nerve agents – above all “military grade nerve agents” – were designed as battlefield weapons. They do not leave opponents fighting fit for hours. There is no description in the scientific literature of a nerve agent having this extraordinary time bomb effect. Quite. This story stinks.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Apr 18 11.34pm |
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Nonsense. The history of Russian operations and you lot think it's a put up job.
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| .TUX. 08 Apr 18 11.43pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Nonsense. The history of Russian operations and you lot think it's a put up job. Yep.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 09 Apr 18 12.10am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Nonsense. The history of Russian operations and you lot think it's a put up job. Personally, I’m saying that I don’t believe a word this government says.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Apr 18 12.38am |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Personally, I’m saying that I don’t believe a word this government says. Maybe, but I trust the Russian government far less. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Apr 2018 12.38am)
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 09 Apr 18 10.45am |
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Oddly enough I am beginning to sway more towards Corbyn, it is beginning to look like Blair and WMDs. Perhaps, Russians but not "Government" Russians, the same people listening to Boris the Buffon were the saying corrupt Russia would sell nuclear material, chemical weapons etc. to terrorists...then the next moment it could only be Putin. Right wing Megalomaniac yes, but inept no.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 09 Apr 18 12.00pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Personally, I’m saying that I don’t believe a word this government says. Agreed. It is astonishing, given the track record, how credulous most people are towards the government's defence and security claims.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 09 Apr 18 3.36pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Agreed. It is astonishing, given the track record, how credulous most people are towards the government's defence and security claims. This is just a question of deciding to believe one bunch of liars over another. It does seem probable that the Russians did this given their track record but it is by no means unlikely that our government could lie about it.
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| .TUX. 09 Apr 18 7.36pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
This is just a question of deciding to believe one bunch of liars over another. It does seem probable that the Russians did this given their track record but it is by no means unlikely that our government could lie about it. Agreed. “It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
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| Stirlingsays 09 Apr 18 8.12pm |
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Russia: the land of rebel journalist death and imprisonment.....state controlled media. Russia: the land of rebel politician death and imprisonment. Russian ex spy murdered a few years back.....Police have arrest warrant for Russian....Russia refuses to bring him back. Russian ex spy very nearly murdered......Oh....it's the British or anyone other than the Russians. Having freedom is a wonderful thing in this country....but it doesn't always translate into cogent observation. It's highly likely that Russia did this. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Apr 2018 8.13pm)
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